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Post by acwof on May 2, 2020 9:01:52 GMT -5
variety.com/2020/tv/news/jeopardy-wheel-of-fortune-executive-producer-harry-friedman-exits-sony-pictures-television-1234595091/Yesterday was Mr. Harry Friedman's last day of being Executive Producer for Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy!. Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy! made announcements regarding this on their social media pages. He is no longer the EP of Wheel and Jeopardy!. As most of you know, Mr. Mike Richards will be the new EP of both shows. Now that everything is official, what are your final thoughts on Harry Friedman, and the impact he made on both of these game shows? And finally, what are your initial thoughts on Mike Richards, and the impact he'll make on both shows? - acwof
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Post by gameshowfandanny on May 2, 2020 9:53:54 GMT -5
I think Mike Richards will do a very great job. Even if Harry made some changes because of the budget, he did a good job. Without him, we wouldn't have the electric puzzle board, the Toss-Ups, the Million Dollar Wedge, the Bonus Wheel, and all of the other good things that we have today, but we still have one more Friedman episode left (the sixth episode of Surfin' Safari week), which will likely air between May 27-29 because May 25 is confirmed to be a rerun of October 21, 2019 and May 26 was the original scheduled date of wheelmasterdave's episode, which was moved to April 8. It is unfortunate that Harry produced his last episode, not knowing that it would be his last episode before Wheel shut down its tapings.
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Post by mechamind on May 2, 2020 11:28:38 GMT -5
Other than All I can say is that it's hard to imagine what it's like to plan retirement and then the party gets cut short due to the ongoing pandemic.
As for Mike, after a lot of what Harry introduced in his earlier years, it's going to be hard to top that.
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Post by newt on May 2, 2020 19:39:10 GMT -5
Mike Richards will be a great EP. I hope Mike will be as talented as Harry. I wonder what kind of changes Mike will bring to Wheel. I hope Mike will do something exciting for Wheel's 40th anniversary during the 2022-2023 season. Maybe Mike should plan remotes shows for the 40th anniversary season like NYC, Hawaii, Disney World, etc.
Harry Friedman did a good job as EP. I like that he created the Wheel Watchers Club and I like that Harry added so many high tech stuff to the show such as the state-of-the-art electronic puzzle board, the two video walls (one in center stage and the other behind the contestants),the LED neon lights adorned on the Wheel and puzzle board, etc. If Harry never joined the team, Wheel (along with Jeopardy!) would not have been the first two syndicated shows and the first two syndicated game shows to be broadcast in high definition. I thank Harry for bringing technological innovations to the show. I feel sorry for Harry that he had to end his career in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Post by Flerbert419 on May 3, 2020 7:28:26 GMT -5
Congratulations to Harry on an amazing career. Harry quite literally saved the show when it desperately needed a strong dose of creativity. Harry is the most creative producer I’ve ever worked with. Harry Friedman is the best producer I’ve ever worked with. So assuming these quotes are true (and not just nice words because somebody is on their way out) my question would be what happened? Why did we have to suffer through so many recent bland seasons of Wheel where the show desperately could have used that shot in the arm that Harry had been able to deliver in the past? I think the last real game changer in my mind was the introduction of the Million Dollar Bonus Round, and that was over 10 years ago. I could think of a couple of theories, but I'm going with that Harry simply disagreed. He thought the show was fine as is and the minor tweaks he was making each season was enough to keep it fresh. I think that was a miscalculation and that the quality of the show has greatly suffered because of it. Unlike the situation when he came into Price, Mike has my full support to shake things up. He has enough experience now doing this to know what might work. And with host changes on the horizon, now could be the time to take advantage and come up with a new format while still keeping the roots.
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Post by antmanb on May 3, 2020 23:04:32 GMT -5
Sorry to see Harry Go, but hopefully Mike can start his new Gig before September!
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Post by wheelmasterdave on May 9, 2020 21:37:07 GMT -5
Needless to say, I'm still hoping he can persuaded to do a Tournament of Champions hahahahaha
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 23:05:52 GMT -5
^ There were plans for a special ep w/ the 3 Millionaires, but one of 'em was unavailable.
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Post by billygr on May 10, 2020 13:29:17 GMT -5
^ There were plans for a special ep w/ the 3 Millionaires, but one of 'em was unavailable. Maybe he could try doing something with those who had the Million but didn't win it in the Bonus Round?
Kind of on the order of doing the Zonk Redemption shows on Deal.
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Post by gradyz033 on May 13, 2020 18:31:41 GMT -5
Harry Friedman did a fantastic job as Ep for Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy. It sucks to cut this time short due to COVID-19. I also want to add that he did a fantastic job as Executive consultant when he did "Pyramid" back in 2002. That version is my favorite growing up. I wish him a safe and well-deserved retirement.
While I'm not looking forward to having Mike Richards as the new EP, I will give him a chance as long as they don't give him the job as the next host. TBH Mike was awful as host when he did GSN's "The Pyramid".
When the time comes for a new host both "Jeopardy!" and "Wheel of Fortune" will probably be hosted by comedians; because, producers today are bias towards them [even companies and network are bias towards them too]. On the other hand I'm worried that Sony is going to pull the same stunt like CBS did when they hired Drew Carey to host "The Price is Right". They're probably going to give Mike Richards the job as host (without an audition) regardless of his talent. Probably because Sony wants to find an excuse to be conservative by cutting back on budget [again] or they're just looking for what's best for themselves.
Also If you watch game shows today, most game show host are also executive producer. I don't know if that is how Hollywood is going to run game shows from now on. If you host do you also have to be the executive producer too? What I'm worried is that they might do the same; but, opposite. Whomever is going to be the executive producer (Executives like Scott St. John, Barry Ponznick, Mike Richards, etc) is also going to get the job as host even if they have little to no talent whatsoever.
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Post by woffan4ever on May 15, 2020 8:58:45 GMT -5
^ Just curious as to why you're not looking forward to his being EP? After getting his "sea legs" at Price, Mike actually did a great job with his direction that he took the show. He kept it fresh while not taking away from what the heart of Price really was and always has been. I do not see why he wouldn't do the same with Wheel & J! As a host? Eh, probably not my first choice, but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world either. Harry did a lot of great things for Wheel (digitizing the puzzle board, overhauling the bonus round for more cash options, jackpot, free play, mystery round, I could go on), but in his final years, things were getting very stale, to say the least, and it needs a breath of fresh air. (J! is J! and there isn't much change that can be done there; making the dollar amounts higher on the board and having unlimited days for returning champs were probably the two best things he did for J!)
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Post by wipeoutman33 on May 15, 2020 9:48:45 GMT -5
Harry Friedman did a fantastic job as Ep for Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy. It sucks to cut this time short due to COVID-19. I also want to add that he did a fantastic job as Executive consultant when he did "Pyramid" back in 2002. That version is my favorite growing up. I wish him a safe and well-deserved retirement. While I'm not looking forward to having Mike Richards as the new EP, I will give him a chance as long as they don't give him the job as the next host. TBH Mike was awful as host when he did GSN's "The Pyramid". When the time comes for a new host both "Jeopardy!" and "Wheel of Fortune" will probably be hosted by comedians; because, producers today are bias towards them [even companies and network are bias towards them too]. On the other hand I'm worried that Sony is going to pull the same stunt like CBS did when they hired Drew Carey to host "The Price is Right". They're probably going to give Mike Richards the job as host (without an audition) regardless of his talent. Probably because Sony wants to find an excuse to be conservative by cutting back on budget [again] or they're just looking for what's best for themselves. Also If you watch game shows today, most game show host are also executive producer. I don't know if that is how Hollywood is going to run game shows from now on. If you host do you also have to be the executive producer too? What I'm worried is that they might do the same; but, opposite. Whomever is going to be the executive producer (Executives like Scott St. John, Barry Ponznick, Mike Richards, etc) is also going to get the job as host even if they have little to no talent whatsoever. I think he did a decent job with Pyramid. IMO, what really hampered that version was the lack of returning champions.
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Post by gradyz033 on May 15, 2020 16:46:15 GMT -5
^ Just curious as to why you're not looking forward to his being EP? After getting his "sea legs" at Price, Mike actually did a great job with his direction that he took the show. He kept it fresh while not taking away from what the heart of Price really was and always has been. I do not see why he wouldn't do the same with Wheel & J! As a host? Eh, probably not my first choice, but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world either. Harry did a lot of great things for Wheel (digitizing the puzzle board, overhauling the bonus round for more cash options, jackpot, free play, mystery round, I could go on), but in his final years, things were getting very stale, to say the least, and it needs a breath of fresh air. (J! is J! and there isn't much change that can be done there; making the dollar amounts higher on the board and having unlimited days for returning champs were probably the two best things he did for J!) Back in 2010 ever since they fired Rich Fields in favor of comedian George Gray, I was unable to keep up with their new direction. I've tried to get use to the new changes; but, after about a year or two it wasn't enough for me. If Mike wanted a "variety show within a game show", then he should of either keep the improved showcase that the classics did (Kinky Kong (1975), Martians Invade Price is Right (1988), etc.) or just let Drew do his Drewcase skits for showcase. I'm just saying. The showcase today is basically using the "get to the prize with no nonsense" format. Look I don't hate Mike, I just don't like him. I get it that he might bring new life to both WOF & J!; but, I just don't want to relive the deja vu all over again. Hiring a comedian; but, has no idea what to use it for? He might fire Jim Thornton for another comedian as the new announcer. What worries me is that Mike is only looking for what's best for himself, even if it meant stealing the game show hosting gig.
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Post by gradyz033 on May 15, 2020 16:54:09 GMT -5
I think he did a decent job with Pyramid. IMO, what really hampered that version was the lack of returning champions. As usual, game show fanbase blames Donnymid for lack of returning champions. And yet they turned a blind eye when it comes to Bill Cullen’s $25,000 Pyramid, The $50,000 Pyramid, GSN’s The Pyramid, and Michael Strahan’s $100,000 Pyramid. It's not fair to talk down on versions just because they don't have returning champions. Both versions may have a good reason not to use it.
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Post by woffan9821 on May 15, 2020 17:38:51 GMT -5
Back in 2010 ever since they fired Rich Fields in favor of comedian George Gray, Rich Fields definitely wasn't fired because Mike thought George Gray was better. I promise you that. He isn't going to fire Jim Thorton just to have more comedy. Mike wanted a "variety show within a game show", then he should of either keep the improved showcase that the classics did (Kinky Kong (1975), Martians Invade Price is Right (1988), etc.) or just let Drew do his Drewcase skits for showcase. Can you expand more on what you mean by "variety show within a game show"? I understand that Mike had to naturally appeal to a changing demographic, which would mean more buzz-worthy moments to post onto Facebook or Twitter, but I don't think that's what you're arguing. Also, I don't agree with the premise of giving Drew control over the showcases. Although I know some were good, the stinkers like the Fried Chicken Showcase are the ones I remember from that era. What worries me is that Mike is only looking for what's best for himself, even if it meant stealing the game show hosting gig. Again, could you expand on this more? From your previous complaints, it seems like you were worried about Mike Richards becoming the next host of Jeopardy! I guarantee you he won't. As for Harry Friedman, congrats for having such a long tenure, and it's a shame it ended on a very rocky note. As has been brought up, on Wheel, I'd say the biggest change that resonated with me after the MDW was the 1/2 Car, but besides that, there really haven't been major tweaks during my time watching the show. Jeopardy! only needs to refresh their pop culture trivia to get the occasional shoutout from a celebrity on Twitter to stay relevant, and with 305 clues a week to work with, Harry did a good job ensuring the writers held that balance perfectly (except the fact that they messed up on two video game questions this season alone, but that's me niggling about nothing). Wheel doesn't have that advantage with just about a sixth of the potential puzzles in the same time period, so Harry had, and Mike will also have, to use gameplay changes to boost that. Of course, I'm fine with Wheel being on the back burner for a little bit longer, since Mike's first big challenge will be making sure the transition from Alex to the next host goes smoothly. However, it would be nice for Wheel to get some more life as well. And if that doesn't happen, I'll make sure when I get on that I'll give them a memorable contestant
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Post by gradyz033 on May 15, 2020 18:43:14 GMT -5
Rich Fields definitely wasn't fired because Mike thought George Gray was better. I promise you that. He isn't going to fire Jim Thorton just to have more comedy. I hope you're right. Can you expand more on what you mean by "variety show within a game show"? I understand that Mike had to naturally appeal to a changing demographic, which would mean more buzz-worthy moments to post onto Facebook or Twitter, but I don't think that's what you're arguing. Also, I don't agree with the premise of giving Drew control over the showcases. Although I know some were good, the stinkers like the Fried Chicken Showcase are the ones I remember from that era. I don't know tbh. I got the "variety show within a game show" phrase; because, I was only doing some research online to get a clear answer about what happened. I was only quoting that phrase from the news/article. I hear you about not agreeing with Drewcases. Also I don't mean to bash; but, if Drew Carey isn't that funny then why give him the job as host to begin with? I'm just saying. Weren't there a lot of complaints about Drew's take when creating Drewcases? Is there a difference, just asking? Again, could you expand on this more? From your previous complaints, it seems like you were worried about Mike Richards becoming the next host of Jeopardy! I guarantee you he won't. As for Harry Friedman, congrats for having such a long tenure, and it's a shame it ended on a very rocky note. As has been brought up, on Wheel, I'd say the biggest change that resonated with me after the MDW was the 1/2 Car, but besides that, there really haven't been major tweaks during my time watching the show. Jeopardy! only needs to refresh their pop culture trivia to get the occasional shoutout from a celebrity on Twitter to stay relevant, and with 305 clues a week to work with, Harry did a good job ensuring the writers held that balance perfectly (except the fact that they messed up on two video game questions this season alone, but that's me niggling about nothing). Wheel doesn't have that advantage with just about a sixth of the potential puzzles in the same time period, so Harry had, and Mike will also have, to use gameplay changes to boost that. Of course, I'm fine with Wheel being on the back burner for a little bit longer, since Mike's first big challenge will be making sure the transition from Alex to the next host goes smoothly. However, it would be nice for Wheel to get some more life as well. And if that doesn't happen, I'll make sure when I get on that I'll give them a memorable contestant I hope you're right about this; however, it's anything goes. I am worried about Mike being the next game show host. He is not a terrific host ever since "The Pyramid". His hosting is way too robotic. He lacks personality. His jokes aren't that funny. He always asks teams in the Winner Circle "What is your strategy for this game?". I bet celebs/contestants are going to draw a blank on that question. And he didn't even mention the "No Singing" during the explanation of the rules. As for the next possible host for Jeopardy, I see some promises; but, I fear Sony is going to show favoritism towards Mike for their own personal opinion. [/quote]
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Post by WarioSajak on May 16, 2020 9:18:36 GMT -5
As usual, game show fanbase blames Donnymid for lack of returning champions. And yet they turned a blind eye when it comes to Bill Cullen’s $25,000 Pyramid, Syndicated weekly in an era before such shows were distributed via satellite, with the tapes instead having mailing lists attached (long story). Yes, there were weekly games with week-to-week continuity and carryover players - The $128,000 Question (1976-78), The $100,000 Name That Tune (1976-81), and Joker Joker Joker (1979-81) - but those were the exceptions in that era. Lower-budget iteration with a "player of the week" format to determine who played in the two tournaments held that year. Also aired several weeks out of production order, most notably resulting in the final two weeks taped before the second tournament airing after it so the latter would be in May sweeps. GSN originals have almost never had returning champs. and Michael Strahan’s $100,000 Pyramid. Primetime games have rarely had returning champs either, not to mention that each "hour" is two separate episodes they paired up (often from different taping sessions). if Drew Carey isn't that funny then why give him the job as host to begin with? Because CBS, more specifically Nina Tassler, wanted him as host. Neither Price nor Fremantle got to have a say in the matter.
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Post by MarioGS on May 17, 2020 17:38:01 GMT -5
The social media generation's consensus on what game shows are "cool" nowadays and which ones are not can be summed up in the comments of this Instagram post. Wheel's reputation compared to Jeopardy! and Feud has suffered under Harry Friedman. Mike has a lot of work to do for it to get the same respect as the others again.
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