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Post by brbthefireball on Jun 23, 2015 16:15:31 GMT -5
*NCAA theme*Greg: The Road to the Fecal Four begins tonight! Welcome to beautiful downtown Peoria, Illinois, for the start of the very first Game Show Turdament. Hi, folks. Greg Gumbel here, alongside Ernie Johnson, Charles Barkley, and Kenny Smith. Over one hundred of America's worst game shows, spanning seven decades, have competed on television. The NCAA selection committee met yesterday afternoon and filled a bracket with 72 of the filthiest, flimsiest, and most God-awful game shows ever. In a little more than three months, we will finally find out which one will reign supreme as the biggest bomb of them all. For more, here's Ernie.Ernie: Thanks, Greg. The bracket committee decided at the last moment to add four play-in matches to the turdament bracket, bringing the total to eight. These new play-in matches will be for two of the #13 seeds and two of the #14 seeds. We will see four of those play-in games tonight. The last four play-in games will take place later in the week. Now for a refresher course on the rules, here's Chuck.Charles: Thanks, Ernie. The rules are almost identical to those of the classic Game Show Tournaments. A brief summary of each game show will be presented. In most cases, a video of the game show in action will also be played for the voters. But in the words of NCAA Turdaments president B.R.B. Fireball, "Watching these videos in highly not recommended." Each voter will award exactly 11 points in each match, and they may choose to post their votes either on Golden-Road.net or the Buy a Vowel Boards. No voter is allowed to vote on both sites. The better a game show is, the more points it receives. The only legitimate scores that each voter may post are 11-0, 10-1, 9-2, 8-3, 7-4, or 6-5. Any voter who is not familiar with a game show must disqualify himself or herself from scoring in that one match. At the end of 72 hours, the game show with the highest score in each match will be eliminated from the turdament, as it would not be the worst game show of all time. The losers in each match will advance through the turdament. Voters should make extra sure that their logic lines up with their votes. They must make sure that the worst programs get the fewest points. The game show that loses in every match it plays will be declared the chumpion and take home this giant trophy with the giant pile of poop on top if it. If there is a tie score in any match, President Fireball will cast the deciding 6-5 vote. Now here's Kenny with a look at tonight's four matches. Kenny?Kenny: Thank you, Charles. We have four interesting matches to kick off the First Annual Game Show Turdament. We begin tonight with the play-in match for the #13 seed of the Daniel Rosen Bracket. This match pits the sister show of "The Price Is Right" against the previous hosting gig of the announcer of "The Price Is Right".Match #1Let's Make a Deal (CBS, 2009-present, Wayne Brady)This is "Let's Make a Deal", as if it were imagined by Stephen Sondheim. For the love of God, why does everything on this show have to be a f**king musical?!The Weakest Link (Syn, 2002-03, George Gray)One-tenth the prize budget of the NBC version, and a host who was one-tenth as intriguing as Anne. At least George is a much better fit for "The Price Is Right".Our second match is for the #11 seed in the Jack Wagner Bracket. These two game shows proved that whatever happened in Vegas should have stayed in Vegas.Match #2Identity (NBC, 2006-07, Penn Jillette)Fun with prejudice and profiling... yay? Penn could have been a good game show host, given the right vehicle... but he just came off as melodramatic and annoying here.Shoppers Casino (Syn, 1987, Jeff Maxwell)The dirty little secret of the game show world. The infomercial masquerading as a game show. The set was cheap, the games were boring, the home shopping items were a pile of crap, the host was incompetent, and the show was all around bad. This show was so bad that very little information about it even exists on the Internet. Nobody would even know this disaster was actually a thing if it wasn't for the one episode available on YouTube.Down in the Joseph Burleson Bracket, two games are competing for a #16 seed. These two game shows have a connection to kids. One is hosted by a voiceover actor from "Finding Nemo". The other is based on a popular computer game.Match #3Lie Detectors (GSN, 2015, Rove McManus) -- no YouTube clips available This unfunny "Liar's Club" rip-off premiered only a couple of months ago, but it's already made a lot of game show fans sick to their stomachs. And that's no lie.Where in Time Is Carmen Sandiego? (PBS, 1996-97, Kevin Shinick)If you want a fun game show to teach you history, go look up some episodes of "History IQ" on YouTube. This spin-off got rid of almost everything that was good about the first "Carmen Sandiego" game show, such as Rockapella and those giant maps. Somehow, this pile of feces got 13 Daytime Emmy nominations.Our final two game shows of the night will compete for the #14 seed in the Daniel Goddard Bracket. Considering that both of these shows featured a lot of contestants getting almost naked, it's no surprise that this match is getting shoved into the late night slot on whatever NCAA network we decide to put this crap.Match #4Dog Eat Dog (NBC, 2002-03, Brooke Burns)Before hitting it big with "The Chase", Brooke really phoned it in on this hybrid of "Fear Factor" and "The Weakest Link".Strip Poker (Syn/USA, 1999-2001, Graham Elwood)A pre-"Cram" Graham Elwood perved it up on this needless game show that tried to use stripteasing to hide its flimsy format... but they couldn't get the stripping right, either.Voting on these four matches will end on Friday June 26 at 5:15 PM Eastern.
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Post by WooWho on Jun 23, 2015 16:44:12 GMT -5
Man, these are hard.
Match 1: C'mon, George wasn't as bad as everyone makes him out to be. Wayne's great, and the show is definitely built around him and his talents, which is why I think he's a great fit for the show. I just wish the audience would learn to shut up every now and again.
It's close, but I think I'm gonna have to go Deal 7, Link 4.
Match 2: Abstain. Haven't seen either one.
Match 3: Abstain. Haven't seen Lie Detectors.
Match 4: Oy vey. Fanservice central, I see...but that said, at least Dog Eat Dog had a different vibe that was easier to stomach than that of Strip Poker.
8-3 in favor of Dog Eat Dog.
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Post by StrangerCoug on Jun 23, 2015 17:16:24 GMT -5
Let's do 7-4 in favor of Let's Make a Deal for Match 1. I'm going to abstain on the others because I have not seen Shoppers Casino, Lie Detectors, or Strip Poker.
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Post by whammy007 on Jun 23, 2015 17:51:11 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is good or bad news, but I can only successfully vote in one of these matches...
Match 1: These are probably the two best shows of the eight in the play-in matches. Unfortunately, one of them has to proceed further in the turdament. I've complained about some of Brady Deal's faults from Day One (such as the one-player Big Deal round), but on the balance it does its job without being glaringly bad. Gray's Weakest Link, while not nearly as bad as some may make it out to be, definitely suffers from Syndication Syndrome in its budget - and George, while solid, just doesn't have Anne Robinson's acerbity. My vote... Brady Deal finds 8 points behind the curtain; with 3 votes, Gray is the Weakest Link in this match.
Match 2: I'm aware of Identity, but I don't think I ever saw it (if I did, no more than one episode which I don't remember). Shopper's Casino I have watched, and dear Lord was it terrible. So I must abstain from voting reluctantly, but if I had to vote, I would go 9-2 in favor of Identity.
Match 3: Likewise, I've seen Where in Time (and have some fond memories of it, it wasn't terrible), but don't have GSN access in order to see Lie Detectors. So again I have to abstain, but my shiggles vote is 8-3 in favor of Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego.
Match 4: Pretty much anyone who's watched GSN has probably seen Dog Eat Dog, as they have reran it so far into the ground that it's gone straight to China. Strip Poker, on the other hand, I know by name and reputation only. For the third time I must abstain, with the just-for-fun vote going 6-5 in favor of Dog Eat Dog.
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Post by jaythebrainmann on Jun 23, 2015 21:57:29 GMT -5
Match 1: This is a close one, as I enjoy both shows, but I have to go 6-5 in favor of Wayne Deal.
Match 2: Haven't seen Identity, so I must abstain.
Match 3: I don't remember much of Where in Time, so I must abstain.
Match 4: Haven't seen Strip Poker, so I must abstain.
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Post by WarioSajak on Jun 24, 2015 2:00:46 GMT -5
Let's Make A Deal (Brady) vs. Weakest Link (Gray): * I liked the syndicated Link, as George's quips had more snark and less "bite" to 'em than Anne's did; the lower budget was a necessity of the five-a-week syndication format, and I didn't think it was cheap. * Deal, though, has fallen down greatly in the past 25 years (the last IMO good version ending at the start of 1991). When multiple contestants can break out into a supposedly-impromptu song-and-dance with Wayne, it's hard to suspect something isn't kinda hinky. Add the fact that Monty Hall's washed his hands of it because they refuse to listen to his suggestions, and you've got a festering turd. 10-1 in favor of George Gray.
Identity vs. Shopper's Casino: * While Identity suffered from way too much padding and drawn-out reveals, it still had a solid format (as some have noted over the years, it would've been better if all the identities were guaranteed to be played with the last few done for multipliers, shifting the focus to fun rather than OMGHALFAMILLIONBUX). * Shopper's Casino, on the other hand, is an inexcusable turd with zero redeeming factors; there's a reason it was spoken of in hushed tones for the better part of 20 years. 11-0 in favor of Identity.
Lie Detectors vs. Where in Time Is Carmen Sandiego?: * Time may have been inferior to World, but at least they still tried to strive for quality (plus, in one episode they had the World Chief appear on the ship and ask where Greg and Rockapella were). And even then, World wasn't quite dead since a French-Canadian version aired for a few years before being replaced by a French-Canadian Time in '98. * Lie Detectors, on the other hand...I tried watching an episode, and while the format's okay there's not much else to write home about. 10-1 in favor of Lynne Thigpen.
Dog Eat Dog vs. Strip Poker: I'll make this quick -- the former was at least a half-decent stunt-based show, whereas the latter couldn't even show nudity due to its timeslot (not that they got to censor much of anything since all the players wore multiple layers of underwear and such). If you want nudity, go find Everything Goes instead; it's got a better game format, too. 9-2 in favor of Dog Eat Dog.
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Post by brbthefireball on Jun 26, 2015 16:45:40 GMT -5
Greg: The first four matches of this inaugural turdament have concluded, though not without controversy. NCAA Turdament senior replacement referee Whammy Bond issued numerous fouls against the voters for non-compliance with the rules. One voter fouled out for not even explaining his votes. This is not to mention that many of the spectators have spent the past 72 hours confused when, out of force of habit, the refs kept running to the center of the court and shouting, "Touchdown Seahawks!"
Having said all of that, let's review all of the matches that we just watched.
#13 Seed Play-In -- Let's Make a Deal (Brady) vs. The Weakest Link (Gray)
Many of the voters were upset that both of these game shows even made it into the turdament and spent the last three days defending the honor of both. One of these games did have to advance, however. Let's Make a Deal found its ticket out of the turdament behind Door #2 with a score of 108-68. The Weakest Link is indeed the weakest link and moves on to the First Round.
#11 Seed Play-In -- Identity vs. Shoppers Casino
Very few people voted in this match because most had never seen either show. But for those who had, they were unanimous in their feelings about one particular show. They all agreed that Shoppers Casino should have been shoved into the trunk of a black limousine owned by somebody named "Fat Tony". Identity unmasked Shoppers Casino as the worst show by a commanding score of 100-10. Shoppers Casino is seen as a Cinderella in this turdament and will get its first real test in a few weeks.
#16 Seed Play-In -- Lie Detectors vs. Where in Time Is Carmen Sandiego?
A very low-scoring affair here, due to most of the voters never seeing any episodes of Lie Detectors. Of the five voters who did, exactly zero of them thought that it was the better show of the pairing. Carmen Sandiego escaped the turdament, 44-11. Lie Detectors moves on to the Round of 64.
#14 Seed Play-In -- Dog Eat Dog vs. Strip Poker
This was another blowout. Dog Eat Dog was the top dog here, 73-15. Strip Poker flops its way to the next match.
Coming up next on CBS: The second half of the play-in matches!
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Post by StrangerCoug on Jun 26, 2015 17:24:49 GMT -5
...I had to explain?
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Post by mechamind on Jun 26, 2015 20:06:21 GMT -5
If I had to guess, the foul-out was on Golden-Road. One user scored all four without details, whereas abstaining from even one implies whether or not you even watched the show.
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Post by brbthefireball on Jun 26, 2015 21:33:03 GMT -5
If I had to guess, the foul-out was on Golden-Road. One user scored all four without details, whereas abstaining from even one implies whether or not you even watched the show. You are correct. Pikachu732001 simply put four votes, but didn't explain which ones were the good shows and which ones were the bad shows. StrangerCoug's vote counted because he at least indicated that LMAD was the better show.
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Post by brbthefireball on Jun 26, 2015 21:35:25 GMT -5
*NCAA theme*
Ernie: You're now looking live at the locker room, where NCAA Turdament president Fireball is giving a fiery pre-game speech. He is sternly reminding the voters to explain all of their votes, especially any 11-0 votes that they may assess.Let's take a look at the matches on tap for tonight. We begin with the battle for the #16 seed in the Rosen Bracket. The loser of this match will earn the right to play our overall #1 seed, Card Sharks 2001.Match #5Bingo America (GSN, 2008, Patrick Duffy) -- no video available GSN's poor attempt to turn "National Bingo Night" into a straight quiz show, with the wooden and uncomfortable Bobby Ewing as host. GSN fired Duffy and brought in Richard Karn for the second season, but there was no turning back from imminent cancellation.Hollywood Squares (Syn, 1986-89, John Davidson)Paul Lynde turned over in his grave after this zinger-driven show got bogged down by countless gimmicky questions and Mr. Goodhair himself, John Davidson.Our second play-in match in the Wagner Bracket will be for the #13 seed.Match #6Let's Ask America (Syn, 2014-15, Bill Bellamy)Scripps's attempt to compete with "Wheel of Fortune" and "Jeopardy! in the syndication market. Essentially, it was "Family Feud" surveys with Skype. The show toddled along just fine for two years with the competent Kevin Pereira as host, but the producers decided to give the show a fresh look with Bellamy. They also slashed the daily prize budget by $15,000, presumably to pay off the A-list talent. Unfortunately for America, Bellamy didn't give us any of that A-list talent as a game show host. He took a page from David Sparks' "Guide to Bad Game Show Hosting" by sleepwalking through the entire season (as evidence by the picture above). Eventually, everybody shut off the webcams and the show got its plug pulled in March.The Price Is Right (Syn, 1994-95, Doug Davidson)Elimination of One-Bids, Clock Game without a clock, and Range Game for the showcases were just some of the unforgivable cosmetic changes made for the faster-paced, half-hour version of everybody's favorite game show. But what really killed this show? O.J.The Burleson Bracket sees these two game shows compete for the #14 seed:Match #7Don't Forget the Lyrics! (Syn/MyNetworkTV/VH1, 2010-11, Mark McGrath)Replacing the live band with Myspace Karaoke, playing a maximum of only five songs per episode, and employing a host who couldn't decide whether he wanted to be stiff and unconvincing... or overcaffeinated and annoying. Yeah, I do want to forget this show happened.The Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour (NBC, 1983-84, Gene Rayburn & Jon Bauman)Two celebrity comedy game shows in one. On paper, this should have been a marriage made in Heaven. Instead, it turned into a messy divorce... and the Hollywood Squares portion was guilty on all counts. Gene Rayburn hosted his portions of the show as well as he could have. But the awful scoring system, the unnecessary scenario questions, and the ill-advised choice of Jon Bauman as host of the rest of the show eventually got this pairing sent to game show hell after nine months.We finish off our play-in matches with the battle for the #11 seed in the Goddard Bracket. The turdament selection committee made sure to put similar shows in different areas of the bracket... but this is one matchup that the committee couldn't resist:Match #8The Newlywed Game (Syn, 1988-89, Paul Rodriguez)With Bob Eubanks retired and Scott Sternberg as the new producer, this game show was dead in the water. Paul broke a cardinal rule of hosting when he made this show more about himself and his comedy than the contestants.The Newlywed Game (GSN, 2009-11, Carnie Wilson) -- no video available Michael Davies added a bonus round to a game show that didn't need one, and hired a singing star who had no business hosting a game show. The ill-conceived bonus round got dropped in Season 2, giving Carnie the opportunity to become more annoying and pervy. Once Carnie started corpsing, Davies sent for actress/comedian Sherri Shepherd. Viewers cared even less for her, and GSN divorced itself from the show for good in 2013.Votes in these matches are due by Monday June 29 at 10:30 PM Eastern.
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Post by WarioSajak on Jun 26, 2015 22:25:11 GMT -5
Not really tough picks for me, but then again... * Bingo America had an okay format for Season 1, but Patrick's hosting ruined it. By comparison, Davidson Squares (what with its plethora of gimmicks despite a self-contained format) looks like a masterpiece. 8-3 in favor of Squares.* The second matchup is no contest because TNPIR '94 was the first version I watched, and I've had a soft spot for it ever since J.M. Vargas sent me three episodes long ago. LAA still had a good format, but the host and cheapness did it in. 9-2 in favor of Doug Davidson and friends.* Third matchup...ho boy. Tried watching the first episode of McGrath's Lyrics when his run was on Netflix, and I was bored to tears. Bauman's Squares may have been flawed, but it actually started out with decent questions (and even a few open-ended ones) and could be good if you were in the right mood. 10-1 in favor of the Hour.* Finally...I liked Paul Rodriguez's run as host, if only because an episode from later in the season turned up online a while back that showed that he did improve as host and stopped making it about himself. Carnie Wilson...yeah, no, that was just painful; the fact GSN had Bob Eubanks fill in for her twice (one had Carnie and her family playing, while the other was a really fun Game Show Hosts special with Wink Martindale, Peter Marshall, and Monty Hall) and still didn't have him replace her after Unstapled became one of the network's biggest disasters says volumes on what they look for in hosts. 9-2 in favor of the Rodriguez era.
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Post by StrangerCoug on Jun 27, 2015 11:33:56 GMT -5
Abstain from all four. Haven't seen the Duffy version of Bingo America, Let's Ask America, Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour, or the Rodriguez version of The Newlywed Game.
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Post by whammy007 on Jun 27, 2015 13:00:09 GMT -5
Hey, I can actually vote more than one match this time!
Match 5: This is another match where both shows do have their flaws, but neither is going to be in real competition for the chumpionship. Patrick Duffy was no Barker or even a Eubanks, but he didn't make any abysmal errors that I recall from the show. BINGO America itself was solid enough for what it was and where it was (namely, on GSN). Davidson Squares, I haven't had as much experience with, but I've seen a few episodes and it was... just sort of there, lacking the flair of Marshall's version or the unrestrained zaniness of Bergeron's. Duffy's BINGO America cards 7 points and the five-square win over Davidson's Squares, which gets blocked for 4.
Match 6: I've never had a Scripps station in my area, so I must officially abstain from voting on this match, due to lack of knowledge of Let's Ask America. Unofficially, after reviewing the video, it looks like a decent format, though it's drawn out in spots and the host is... overly caffeinated. Davidson Price is a show I've had a bit of a soft spot for - while it's not the same as traditional Price (with no one-bids and a one-player Showcase), it's a remix that's still very enjoyable to watch. So my just-for-fun vote would have been Davidson Price 7, Bellamy Let's Ask America 4.
Match 7: Don't Forget The Lyrics, again, was solid enough for what it was, a syndicated show that's basically karaoke with a broken machine. Mark McGrath wasn't impressive, but he did a serviceable job and kept things going. The MG-HS Hour, on the other hand, was a total trainwreck. The theme song is awesome, and I credit Gene Rayburn for keeping the Match Game segment together, but the fusion of the two game formats just implodes almost immediately. Done properly, it could have been great, but it falls flat in so many ways. McGrath Don't Forget The Lyrics remembers 8 points, while the Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour stumbles its way to 3.
Match 8: I was not even aware that Paul Rodriguez Newlywed Game was a thing, so again I must formally abstain from voting. Off the record, I will say that the first immediate bad sign here was Rodriguez's name being placed in the title - I don't think I have EVER seen that before in an American game show (though UK/Aussie shows have done it as a sign of respect to their stars on occasion - see Bruce's Price is Right). It shows in the video, as Rodriguez turns the Newlywed Game into "his show" in the worst possible way, always having to get the last word in with a dubiously witty one-liner. Carnie Wilson's version, on the other hand, was done fairly well for a GSN show. While Wilson was not at all the best pick that could have been made, she is certainly no Paul Rodriguez, and the show's flavor is solid if unspectacular. My unofficial vote here would be Carnie Wilson 9, Paul Rodriguez 2.
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Post by WarioSajak on Jun 27, 2015 16:26:38 GMT -5
I was not even aware that Paul Rodriguez Newlywed Game was a thing, so again I must formally abstain from voting. Off the record, I will say that the first immediate bad sign here was Rodriguez's name being placed in the title - I don't think I have EVER seen that before in an American game show (though UK/Aussie shows have done it as a sign of respect to their stars on occasion - see Bruce's Price is Right). It's been done a few times over the years. The most notable one is probably Bruce Forsyth's Hot Streak (1986), Brucie's only American game show. It was also slotted by ABC against Wheel and Price, a good sign the network had zero faith in it and knew the show had pretty much zero chance of a long run (it got the standard 13 weeks and no more), although it went on to success elsewhere in the world.
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Post by brbthefireball on Jun 30, 2015 16:02:33 GMT -5
*NCAA theme*Voiceover: Coverage of the 2015 Road to the Fecal Four sponsored by...Big Ass Ham. Breakfast, lunch, dinner, anytime at all, your family will love Big Ass Ham and the complete line of Big Ass pork products. Remember, it ain't ham unless it's a Big Ass Ham.Greg: Welcome to the start of the second week of the 2015 Game Show Turdament. Ernie, Charles, Kenny, and I are reporting to you live from the NCAA Studio in Atlanta. We want to keep you up to date on the play-in matches that just ended up in Peoria. We go to Ernie for that information.Ernie: Yes, four decisive wins to close out the opening week of this year's Game Show Turdament. We start with that match for the #16 seed in the Rosen Bracket. Hollywood Squares (Davidson) gets the five-square win with a score of 95-59. Bingo America (Duffy) will have to draw balls with Card Sharks (Bullard) in the First Round.In the Wagner Bracket for the #13 seed, we had a landslide victory. The Price Is Right (Davidson) drives out of the turdament, 102-30. Bill Bellamy will have to sleepwalk his way to another match.Another 100-point score was found in the match for the Burleson Bracket's #14 seed. The Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour gets the default tic-tac-toe, 100-43. Don't Forget the Lyrics! (McGrath) will gets its second verse in the turdament.The closest game of the night was the battle of the newlyweds in the Goddard Bracket. Carnie sings her way to the 52-25 victory. Paul gets the #11 seed, and that's no joke.In just a few minutes, the Game Show Turdament Round of 64 will kick off with four exciting games. Stay with us!
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