WarioSajak
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Post by WarioSajak on Oct 18, 2016 17:54:09 GMT -5
All I've seen of Susan is the "KILL THE UMPIRE" episode and the "Teen Week" episode when she filled in for Vanna. Are there anymore episodes with her available on YouTube or Dailymotion? I'm sure there are, spanning from the 1974 pilots to early September '82. I'd also really like to see more Susan Stafford episodes. Not many of those are available. Beause not many exist. You are aware that a lot of daytime Wheel was wiped, right? To be fair, I'm sure not everybody knows that shows were wiped or erased in the first place, given today's technology allows for a lot of stuff to be readily available via YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, etc. Even then, those who are aware might not know that Merv continued wiping daytime Wheel into 1985, since it's kinda odd and a bit strange. Wouldn't mind some Woolery/Goen or maybe out of curiosity, Some Benirschke Episodes, I've never seen one of his eps before. Post-Sajak daytime isn't likely at all because of the "Who?" factor (though I'd have grabbed the Goen shows to help plug That's the Question), plus these days Sony is pretty adverse to paying royalties to Merv's estate. There's probably a few Rolf-era episodes online somewhere (I know I've seen five of the six that circulate). On the other hand, I'd say Woolery/early Sajak aren't out of the realm of possibility, since Sony has shown they're fine with clips of Alan Thicke's music. Unfortunately, most of the available episodes (outside the ones also held by Paley Center) don't seem to be in broadcast quality.
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Oct 18, 2016 18:27:19 GMT -5
^Thanks WarioSajak for explaining it to me.
I knew that most of the daytime episodes had been wiped but I just wasn't aware at actually how much was available online.
Were they wiped on purpose?
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Post by WarioSajak on Oct 18, 2016 19:55:40 GMT -5
Were they wiped on purpose? In Wheel's case? Definitely. From what I've read, it was policy at Merv Griffin Productions to reuse the tapes...although that doesn't explain why the 1978-79 Jeopardy! is intact.
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Post by Bryce L. on Oct 18, 2016 20:17:52 GMT -5
Were they wiped on purpose? In Wheel's case? Definitely. From what I've read, it was policy at Merv Griffin Productions to reuse the tapes...although that doesn't explain why the 1978-79 Jeopardy! is intact. Or the 1974-1975 syndie J!, purportedly.
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Post by WarioSajak on Oct 18, 2016 23:16:19 GMT -5
Or the 1974-1975 syndie J!, purportedly. Given it was Fred Wostbrock who said both that and the '78 revival were intact, I'm inclined to believe it is. (And if nothing else, at least one episode's surfaced.)
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Post by Bryce L. on Oct 18, 2016 23:33:06 GMT -5
Or the 1974-1975 syndie J!, purportedly. Given it was Fred Wostbrock who said both that and the '78 revival were intact, I'm inclined to believe it is. (And if nothing else, at least one episode's surfaced.) Thanks, couldn't recall if it was him or David Schwartz who'd said it.
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Post by fanfromflorida on Oct 22, 2016 22:42:41 GMT -5
^Thanks WarioSajak for explaining it to me. I knew that most of the daytime episodes had been wiped but I just wasn't aware at actually how much was available online. Were they wiped on purpose? You can learn about most of the reasons for the Tape-Wiping/Destruction for Early WOF as well as other shows here: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/MissingEpisode/GameShows
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Post by MarioGS on Oct 23, 2016 17:16:21 GMT -5
Wheel has finally been added to the listings, although currently only for next week and not for the week after just yet. It will not be a strict run-through of Season 31 in order. After Season Premiere week, the first two shows of the subsequent Palazzo Week will air, followed by at least the first three of Halloween Week because of Halloween coming up.
The lineup for next week is as follows:
Monday, 10/24 11:00 - Season Premiere 1 (09/16/13) 11:30 - Season Premiere 2 (09/17/13, yes the "Guy gets screwed out of a million dollars" episode...)
Tuesday, 10/25 11:00 - Season Premiere 3 (09/18/13) 11:30 - Season Premiere 4 (09/19/13)
Wednesday, 10/26 11:00 - Season Premiere 5 (09/20/13) 11:30 - Palazzo Week 1 (09/23/13)
Thursday, 10/27 11:00 - Palazzo Week 2 (09/24/13) 11:30 - Halloween Week 1 (10/28/13)
Friday, 10/28 11:00 - Halloween Week 2 (10/29/13) 11:30 - Halloween Week 3 (10/30/13)
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Oct 23, 2016 20:42:08 GMT -5
^I guess I should be thankful for anything "Wheel" related on GSN---but leave it up to them to screw it up!
According to my DIRECTV onscreen guide, "Lingo" returns on October 31 with "Wheel" nowhere on the schedule. I'm hoping this is a goof up that hasn't been corrected yet.
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Oct 24, 2016 10:14:34 GMT -5
Kind of ironic that the first puzzle is ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE---yes, that statement is completely true with Wheel back on GSN.
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Post by MarioGS on Oct 24, 2016 10:32:59 GMT -5
For anyone who watched and paid close enough attention, did Pat do a thorough explanation of the Express Wedge before Round 3 on the season premiere? When they reran that episode on a Saturday, they cut the whole thing out, but they left in all the references to it being the Season 31 premiere.
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Oct 24, 2016 10:37:57 GMT -5
^Yes, the explanation WAS there.
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Post by MarioGS on Oct 24, 2016 11:32:09 GMT -5
What about the SPIN ID drawings? When they reran episodes from 2006-07 on GSN back in 2010, they were surprisingly left in. Presumably, they were the drawings from the original airings or summer/Saturday reruns.
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Oct 24, 2016 11:53:12 GMT -5
^No Spin IDs.
I don't remember when they aired episodes back in 2010. How long did it last?
What exactly has aired on GSN in the past?
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Post by MarioGS on Oct 24, 2016 12:22:08 GMT -5
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Oct 24, 2016 12:27:54 GMT -5
^AH yes, I remember the Black Friday marathon now.
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Post by pannoni1 on Oct 24, 2016 21:26:41 GMT -5
Of course, GSN could always add another season or two like they did with 1, 5, and 10 in 1996/1997, much like they cycled multiple TPIR seasons as well for awhile. For example, air 13 weeks of Season 31, then 13 of 23, then 13 of 27, then 13 weeks of different episodes of Season 31, 13 different of 23, 13 different of 27, and so on. Let's not forget that this applies to other shows, where GSN kept airing 1987 $25K Pyramids, and now they've gone back to 1982 again. But I'm just so glad that the Wheel is back for any measure. And let's not forget that 11:00/10 Central was daytime Wheel's slot during much of its run, and still managed to finish second during many years, and if anything helped build enthusiasm for the nighttime version and its ratings bonanza.
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Post by MarioGS on Oct 24, 2016 22:48:30 GMT -5
The listings were updated today to include next week's Wheel shows. Looks like Halloween Week just got sandwiched in and the rotation will continue in order where it left off, presumably skipping Halloween Week once they get to that point.
Monday, 10/31 11:00 - Halloween Week 4 (10/31/13) 11:30 - Halloween Week 5 (11/01/13)
Tuesday, 11/01 11:00 - Palazzo Week 3 (09/25/13) 11:30 - Palazzo Week 4 (09/26/13)
Wednesday, 11/02 11:00 - Palazzo Week 5 (09/27/13) 11:30 - Teacher's Week 1 (09/30/13)
Thursday, 11/03 11:00 - Teacher's Week 2 (10/01/13) 11:30 - Teacher's Week 3 (10/02/13)
Friday, 11/04 11:00 - Teacher's Week 4 (10/03/13) 11:30 - Teacher's Week 5 (10/04/13)
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Oct 24, 2016 22:51:47 GMT -5
^Woohoo! Thanks MarioGS for the awesome update! We can always count on ya!
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Oct 28, 2016 10:20:38 GMT -5
Looks like they screwed up the classic flashback bonus round. After round 2, they showed the puzzle but they never showed the solution (which was JAWS).
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