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Post by MarioGS on Jul 26, 2019 16:54:42 GMT -5
The new feature for Season 37 is called the Triple Toss-Up. It replaces the $3,000 Toss-Up.
Before Round 4, three Toss-Ups are played in a row. They are each worth $2,000. All three have the same category and they also have a common theme, but this is not stated. There’s a tip for you upcoming contestants!
This now gives each episode a total of five Toss-Ups and a minimum of ten puzzles total.
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Post by spinthewheel123 on Jul 26, 2019 17:30:40 GMT -5
Wow this is interesting. Can't wait to see it on TV.
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Post by woffan9821 on Jul 26, 2019 17:32:03 GMT -5
...That's actually a gameplay change that balances out the power of the Prize Puzzle by allowing more cash to be guaranteed, instead of being instantly forced into a Round 4 Speed-Up. I'm actually a fan of that change on paper.
Do we know who goes first after the Triple Toss-Up? Is it the person who solves two of the puzzles, the person who solves the third puzzle, or the person who solved the $2,000 Toss-Up?
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Post by WarioSajak on Jul 26, 2019 19:50:07 GMT -5
The fact it's put right before Round 4 (rather than before Round 1, which would at least remove the silly $1,000 Toss-Up) gives me the feeling that the Triple Toss-Up is only really there to increase the possibility of Round 4 beginning as a Speed-Up and lower the possibility of games going to Rounds 5+.
Don't get me wrong, it's a neat idea, but I'm just a bit skeptical. I really hope I'm wrong, though.
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Post by MarioGS on Jul 26, 2019 19:54:43 GMT -5
Do we know who goes first after the Triple Toss-Up? Is it the person who solves two of the puzzles, the person who solves the third puzzle, or the person who solved the $2,000 Toss-Up? Round 4 is started by the winner of the third puzzle, regardless of who won the first two. There is also a unique sound effect played upon solving the first two puzzles - a series of four high-pitched dings. The regular Toss-Up solve cue is used on the third. |
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Post by genius2751 on Jul 26, 2019 22:38:00 GMT -5
Not to be pessimistic, but why do I sense a few stumpers coming because of this development (given we've only had zero to two in the previous five seasons)?
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Post by MarioGS on Jul 27, 2019 0:03:46 GMT -5
The fact it's put right before Round 4 (rather than before Round 1, which would at least remove the silly $1,000 Toss-Up) gives me the feeling that the Triple Toss-Up is only really there to increase the possibility of Round 4 beginning as a Speed-Up and lower the possibility of games going to Rounds 5+. Don't get me wrong, it's a neat idea, but I'm just a bit skeptical. I really hope I'm wrong, though. For the six shows at today's tapings... Only two games had Round 4 begin with Speed-Up. Two others made it to Round 5. |
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Post by Bryce L. on Jul 27, 2019 0:12:21 GMT -5
The fact it's put right before Round 4 (rather than before Round 1, which would at least remove the silly $1,000 Toss-Up) gives me the feeling that the Triple Toss-Up is only really there to increase the possibility of Round 4 beginning as a Speed-Up and lower the possibility of games going to Rounds 5+. Don't get me wrong, it's a neat idea, but I'm just a bit skeptical. I really hope I'm wrong, though. For the six shows at today's tapings... Only two games had Round 4 begin with Speed-Up. Two others made it to Round 5. Well color me surprised... |
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Post by MarioGS on Jul 27, 2019 0:41:47 GMT -5
If you guys want an idea, here are the puzzles from one of the shows that taped today. Again, the fact that they share a common theme is not mentioned, only that they are all the same category: FUN & GAMES
1: SPACE INVADERS
2: DONKEY KONG
3: PINBALL MACHINE
Although this will likely not be the case 100% of the time. They may suddenly go off on a tangent for the third puzzle. Another episode used Proper Name as the category, with the first two puzzles being presidents and the third being a late-night talk show host. |
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Post by germanname1990 on Jul 27, 2019 2:25:25 GMT -5
So more chances to walk out with something, huh? I love it. Now I can imagine that once you solve any of these puzzles, the $2000 is yours regardless of what happens after that, but I am left to wonder how smooth and fast-paced this element is. Are all three puzzles shown at once on different lines, or are they shown one at a time? Regardless of which is the case, after one puzzle, do they immediately introduce the next puzzle, or is there some sort of break (perhaps for applause for the solver) before doing so?
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Post by aaaa on Jul 27, 2019 4:45:30 GMT -5
A contestant could conceivably win the game with just the $9000 in toss ups, if another player wins the Prize Puzzle round and it is worth less than $9K, and the third player solves the other three or four puzzles and gets less than $9K. Will that happen? Not too likely.
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Post by Flerbert419 on Jul 27, 2019 7:02:26 GMT -5
While I appreciate the Toss Ups for the addition of more money and a fairer way to decide who starts some of the rounds, my issue is that they take away from the main focus of the game - the wheel of fortune.
There's only so much time on the show and devoting more of it to Toss Ups means less spinning, less chance of hitting the $5,000 wedge, and less risk taking since there's no real penalty involved.
I already thought they should drop either the $1k or $2k Toss Up, so adding more isn't necessarily a change I'm excited about.
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Post by MarioGS on Jul 27, 2019 11:37:02 GMT -5
So more chances to walk out with something, huh? I love it. Now I can imagine that once you solve any of these puzzles, the $2000 is yours regardless of what happens after that, but I am left to wonder how smooth and fast-paced this element is. Are all three puzzles shown at once on different lines, or are they shown one at a time? Regardless of which is the case, after one puzzle, do they immediately introduce the next puzzle, or is there some sort of break (perhaps for applause for the solver) before doing so? Yes, the $2000 per puzzle gets added to your total just like any other Toss-Up would, and as the puzzles progress, the contestants' Triple Toss-Up winnings remain on the scoreboards through the third puzzle (e.g. $2000/ [blank]/ $2000). The puzzles are shown one at a time, though the wipe transition is only used before the first one. As a puzzle is solved, there is the usual routine of applause and close-up of solver, then a shot of Pat as he introduces the next puzzle. |
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Post by spinthewheel123 on Jul 27, 2019 11:55:38 GMT -5
I have a question about this. What if one of the toss-ups does not get solved?
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Post by MarioGS on Jul 27, 2019 12:19:15 GMT -5
Presumably, nobody gets the $2,000 and they simply move to the next one. Now, as for what happens if the third one goes unsolved, my assumption is that the order continues and whoever started Round 1 will start Round 4. Perhaps that honor could go to whoever solved the second one, but considering that Red always starts Round 1 if TU2 goes unsolved regardless of who won TU1, I think this is less likely. By the way, how are we going to abbreviate the puzzles? TTU1-3, or TU3-5?  |
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Post by MarioGS on Jul 27, 2019 12:45:51 GMT -5
A contestant could conceivably win the game with just the $9000 in toss ups, if another player wins the Prize Puzzle round and it is worth less than $9K, and the third player solves the other three or four puzzles and gets less than $9K. Will that happen? Not too likely. One could even win with an $8,000 total by solving every Toss-Up except the first one, assuming the Prize Puzzle is worth less. Example: $8,000 - All Toss-Ups except the first $7,XXX - Prize Puzzle only, maybe plus a few hundred in cash $4,500 - $1,000 Toss-Up, plus solving Rounds 1 and 2 for house minimum, and Round 4, if Speed-Up, for $1,500. Even solving Round 4 for house minimum and then Round 5 could work, and any Speed-Up value besides $6,000 works. Lot of leeway for this scenario. |
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Post by WayoshiM on Jul 27, 2019 14:43:41 GMT -5
I was thinking TU3.1, 3.2, 3.3. whatever.
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Post by pannoni1 on Jul 29, 2019 6:17:56 GMT -5
Well since Wheel has a used letter board, I'll refer to them as 3A, 3B, and 3C.
Still, that's about 30-40 seconds or so of Wheel time (about two spins) that will be lost out to, and of course, while it increases the potential guarantee total by $3,000, in reality, it's closer to around $1,000 due to those lost spins. If Chuck Woolery was still host, he'd likely disapprove since it's better suited to that show with a giant moving cube.
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Post by RoonilWazlib on Jul 29, 2019 8:41:20 GMT -5
WOW. Very big news, this is not a shake-up I was expecting but it's good to hear that one of the more preparation- and skill-rewarding portions of the game is paying out higher. That's all the harder I'm going to have to work since toss-ups certainly feel like the weakest part of my Wheel game right now.
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Post by ringsofearth on Jul 29, 2019 16:07:56 GMT -5
I really like the change, but it will be a little harder for me to control my ROBLOX Wheel. After a puzzle has been used, it takes a few minutes to get the next one ready for me. I might make the Triple Toss-Ups short puzzles for my games.
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