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Post by WooWho on Aug 12, 2015 17:42:17 GMT -5
Previously on the Evaluation series: Express, Free Play, 1/2 Car, and the Prize Puzzle. You know where to go to chime in on those elements. Then, go ahead and tackle this one. In this installment of the Evaluation series, we look at a real "wild" element indeed...one that's even earned a fan nickname 'round these parts (does "The Pink Bankrupt Magnet" sound familiar to anyone?). How affectionate it is, though, is up for debate... HOW IT WORKS:
- A contestant may pick up the Wild Card if he lands on the wedge containing the Wild Card and calls a correct letter. (He also earns $500 per letter.)
- During the main game, if a player holds the Wild Card, he may elect to hand in the Wild Card instead of spinning. The next letter he calls is worth the amount he is currently sitting on.
- A player who carries the Wild Card all the way to the Bonus Round may call an extra consonant.
- The Wild Card is lost to Bankrupt.
WHAT WE KNOW:
- The Wild Card may be used immediately after buying a vowel for the same dollar value on which the wheel currently rests.
- Unlike the 1/2 Car tags and the Million Dollar Wedge, the Wild Card does not require the player to win the same round in which he picked it up to lock it in.
- As one contestant found out the hard way, the Wild Card may not be used during the Speed-Up Round.
WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW:
- If a player uses the Wild Card in the Bonus Round, should they get the choice to call any letter they want? Just a consonant? Just a vowel?
- The old Free Spin and Double Play tokens weren't lost to Bankrupt. Why should(n't) the Wild Card be?
- What's a Wild Card worth to you?
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Aug 12, 2015 18:07:38 GMT -5
If a player uses the Wild Card in the Bonus Round, should they get the choice to call any letter they want? Just a consonant? Just a vowel?
I never actually thought about being able to call a vowel using the WC. This is a good point. I think you should be able to call ANY letter you want if you have the WC in the bonus round.
The old Free Spin and Double Play tokens weren't lost to Bankrupt. Why should(n't) the Wild Card be?
The WC allows you to make a lot of extra money if used properly, so I think it should be lost if you hit a bankrupt.
What's a Wild Card worth to you?
It's my favorite piece of cardboard on the wheel (obviously besides the million dollar wedge), so I really like the WC and what it brings to the game.
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Post by lousan92 on Aug 15, 2015 11:29:52 GMT -5
I like the Wild Card, but I would like it to be used more frequently in the maingame. The distribution of the amounts of the Wheel make it only usable on the top dollar value, since for players there isn't much difference between $500 and $900.
Let's answer the questions:
If a player uses the Wild Card in the Bonus Round, should they get the choice to call any letter they want? Just a consonant? Just a vowel? It would be good to choose if you want a consonant or a vowel, but since the Wild Card is tied to a consonant in the maingame, it makes more sense to offer just the consonant in the BR. However, I think that if they offered an extra letter, players would go for the vowel because it's often more useful than the consonant. In that case I would do like in La Ruleta with the Ayuda Final wedge: they offer three envelopes with a consonant, a vowel or a clue and the player has to choose one of them, but I won't offer the clue in Wheel.
The old Free Spin and Double Play tokens weren't lost to Bankrupt. Why should(n't) the Wild Card be? I won't remove the Wild Card with Bankrupt. In my opinion, the Free Spin had more power than the Wild Card and had more reasons to be lost on Bankrupt. And Double Play has more or less the same effect that the Wild Card used in the maingame. For me, the only reason to remove it is the extra consonant of the BR, but most of the times doesn't give the key to solve the puzzle, so it isn't "dangerous" for the budget if it's not lost.
What's a Wild Card worth to you? This question is not new and I think that I've answered this previously. During the first three rounds I would use it exclusively in the top dollar values. After the third Toss-Up I have two options: if I have the lead I would use it only in $5,000. If not, I would also consider using it in $700, $800 or $900.
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Post by mechamind on Aug 15, 2015 16:16:20 GMT -5
The old Free Spin and Double Play tokens weren't lost to Bankrupt. Why should(n't) the Wild Card be?
I won't remove the Wild Card with Bankrupt. In my opinion, the Free Spin had more power than the Wild Card and had more reasons to be lost on Bankrupt. And Double Play has more or less the same effect that the Wild Card used in the maingame. For me, the only reason to remove it is the extra consonant of the BR, but most of the times doesn't give the key to solve the puzzle, so it isn't "dangerous" for the budget if it's not lost. I never thought about that, though it probably makes sense with Free Spin's retirement.
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Post by ld on Aug 20, 2015 4:34:19 GMT -5
Wild Card should be used more in the main game rounds on the low dollar amounts when a contestant is not in first place. People will argue that you should save it for either a top dollar wedge or Bonus Round usage but the reality is if by Round 4 if you aren't in first place, the Wild Card is almost surely going to be a dead item. Wild Card is effectively a one-time Express; why wouldn't you want take advantage of that great feature if it meant securing a puzzle and earning a little bit more money? Playing unwarranted chance games with the wheel is asking for trouble. If a player uses the Wild Card in the Bonus Round, should they get the choice to call any letter they want? Just a consonant? Just a vowel? The old Free Spin and Double Play tokens weren't lost to Bankrupt. Why should(n't) the Wild Card be? What's a Wild Card worth to you? 1. Consonant only for balance purposes. It would be boring to hear it be used for a vowel every single time; I like it with consonants since there is still a good amount of thinking to decide what the last consonant should be and I'm generally interested in what the contestant is thinking in choosing their last letter (i.e. as opposed to why they didn't choose it as part of their original 3). 2. I'm indifferent about it. Wild Card not being lost to Bankrupt just simply zaps out any strategy involved with using it. Might be good if players learn to use it more often, but bad if players still insist on securing it for a top dollar amount when not in first place. 3. A valuable asset to the wheel. Deserving of its name since it can shift the tide towards the holder's favor. I hope it doesn't retire any time soon.
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Post by WooWho on Aug 23, 2015 18:20:52 GMT -5
I've always thought the Wild Card was a bit of a misnomer since it couldn't be used for vowels in the Bonus Round. To me that's like saying, "Jokers are wild, but you can't use them for the Fast Forward category when it's in play" (if you know what I mean). I mean, I guess that's like in pai gow poker where a joker = ace unless you have 4/5 on a straight or flush, at which point it fills in that last space...anyway, I'm going off on a tangent.
That said, I thought it would go the way of the Double Play after most players seemed to either use it at inopportune times or forget all about it. The nice thing about forgetting all about it only really kicks in if you win the game, but I suppose that saves it from being a complete waste.
As much as I would like to see it used more in the main game, as Javier said, it's really only worth it on the top dollar value (now more than ever). I'd remedy it slightly by doing what they do in the speed-up round: add $1,000 to whatever amount it's used on. Yes, it makes top dollar worth even more, but at least using it on $500 would still yield a decent chunk of change. Could make close games even more interesting if a trailing player has it and is only a couple thousand dollars behind.
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Aug 25, 2015 7:22:44 GMT -5
WooWho, are you going to review the million dollar wedge?
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Post by tlc38tlc38 on Dec 1, 2016 13:02:07 GMT -5
Should you be able to use the wild card in the speed-up round to call another letter and get an additional 3 seconds to try and solve?
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Post by WooWho on Dec 1, 2016 19:11:26 GMT -5
I'd say no for the same reason you couldn't use the Free Spin in the Speed-Up. It throws off the flow of the round, which is counterintuitive to the purpose of the Speed-Up.
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Post by WooWho on Oct 28, 2019 9:57:29 GMT -5
Here's another interesting question that I only thought of just now:
Spain's version splits the two functions of the Wild Card into two different wedges: the Doble Letra (Double Letter), which functions the same as a maingame Wild Card usage; and the Ayuda Final (Final Help), which gives the player some extra assistance in the Bonus Round, but with three options the player chooses via blind draw: an extra consonant, an extra vowel, or 5 seconds of extra time--in the past, they've also offered an extra clue to the puzzle.
Would you prefer this approach? Why or why not?
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Post by acwof on Oct 28, 2019 10:51:48 GMT -5
Here's another interesting question that I only thought of just now: Spain's version splits the two functions of the Wild Card into two different wedges: the Doble Letra (Double Letter), which functions the same as a maingame Wild Card usage; and the Ayuda Final (Final Help), which gives the player some extra assistance in the Bonus Round, but with three options the player chooses via blind draw: an extra consonant, an extra vowel, or 5 seconds of extra time--in the past, they've also offered an extra clue to the puzzle. Would you prefer this approach? Why or why not? While I like the idea of having a choice in the Bonus Round, especially the option of calling an extra vowel, using this idea would just make Bonus Round puzzles even more difficult. (COOKING WITH WOKS AND PANS, for example.) However, using this approach, it would be appropriate to use difficult Bonus Puzzles (even with ridiculously difficult puzzles we've seen in the past like GLITZY AFFAIR), only because you're getting a little bit of help. I like it, but there would have to be a catch to something like this, even though it seems like we already have that catch without the perk, if you know what I mean. - acwof
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Post by MarioGS on Oct 28, 2019 11:05:43 GMT -5
I think the Wild Card already confuses players as it is for having too many rules, which casual viewers often don't get to learn because the card is almost-always lost to Bankrupt or unused. People seem to understand the Bonus Round portion of it fine, but it's the maingame part of it that's pretty fuzzy. We've seen several contestants over the years try to use it illegally (trying to use it to buy a vowel, trying to use it in the Speed-Up Round, just flat out asking to use it even if they didn't spin as we saw last month). My biggest problem with it is that its maingame uses are at least 90% dependent on Pat. I recall an episode where he talked somebody into using it on $5000, and you could tell by his body language that he was just going along with it and wouldn't have used it on his own accord. The money earned from the extra consonants sent him to the Bonus Round. In one of the episodes I saw at my taping (which doesn't air until November)... A contestant hit $2500 with the Wild Card, but Pat did not mention it. She solved immediately afterwards, and there was at least one consonant remaining. She lost the Wild Card to Bankrupt in a later round, and came in second by <$2500, IIRC. Had Pat convinced her to use the card for one more consonant before solving, she would have won the game. Yes, it's the contestants' responsibility to remember the rules, but Pat has always been inconsistently babying people into using it, and it really can affect the game based on whether he chooses to open his mouth or not. I have seen several times where he will not acknowledge the card on $2500, only for it to get lost to Bankrupt one or two spins later. If Pat tells someone about using the Wild Card, they don't have to say yes, and I've seen it happen before, as well. We've had a few contestants say no to using it in the maingame in favor of saving it for a later-round TDV hit or the Bonus Round.
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Post by gameshowfandanny on Mar 8, 2020 11:41:33 GMT -5
"If a player uses the Wild Card in the Bonus Round, should they get the choice to call any letter they want? Just a consonant? Just a vowel?" I think an extra consonant and an extra vowel. "The old Free Spin and Double Play tokens weren't lost to Bankrupt. Why should(n't) the Wild Card be?" I don't think it should be vulnerable to Bankrupt because Double Play wasn't vulnerable to Bankrupt. "What's a Wild Card worth to you?" I would use it on any $900, Mystery, or Top Dollar. If none of those opportunities came up, then I would use it in the Bonus Round if I made it there.
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Post by pannoni1 on May 6, 2021 9:30:36 GMT -5
Here are my three main pointers about the Wild Card:
1. Although its almost never seen on the show (I can't remember when), the fact that you can use this after buying vowels would be something I'd love to see more, especially after landing on the TDV wedge where you can easily afford to buy all the vowels, and then after some additional information, use the remaining consonants to call a letter that you not only know is in the puzzle, but preferably one that you know there will be multiple letters.
2. Generally speaking, use the Wild Card if you'll acquire at least $2,500 upon usage, whether its a single consonant from any TDV space, or even five N's for $500 each, especially if you're close to solving the puzzle. An extra consonant in the BR is nice, but since you need to win the match without landing on Bankrupt, having at least a decent chunk of change for just winning a round shouldn't be discounted since those winnings are yours to keep.
3. Overall, its quite an improvement over that rather short-lived Double Play token from Season 13, where the main key is that you get to control not only when you can use it, but potentially do better than double than your previous turn in terms of calling multiples, and this doesn't include the extra BR consonant. With these added benefits, the fact that this token isn't Bankrupt-safe heightens the risk and tension when its on the line.
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Post by logicman27 on Aug 20, 2021 0:56:32 GMT -5
Having recently recapped an episode featuring a WC usage on a $900 space, I’d like to offer my two cents regarding using it on non-TDV.
Yes, it’s rather foolish to use it on any value, but TDV, but there’s somewhat of an exemption to the rule.
Towards the end of R4, a man had $4,800 so far this round, his last spin was on the pink $900 and there was one consonant remaining. Given that he had a $20K deficit coming into the round ($6K to the leader’s $26,998), using the WC on the space he just spun isn’t a bad idea especially when the next round was a full Speed-Up and Pat had no chance of hitting $5K given his spin power (thus leaving the man with no way to outright win the game).
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