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Post by jarvisbrodiea24 on Jul 19, 2011 14:56:45 GMT -5
If you remember, it was nearly three years since WHEEL has given away the Million Dollar Cash prize. But no one has won the prize since then, even though on occasion it was a close call to being lost in the Bonus Round even though it wasn't the prize revealed.
Now it is still on the wheel this coming season, but here is a question I'd like to ask regarding its status:
Should the Million Dollar Wedge be kept intact? Or should the wedge be retired?
What do you think?
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Post by tonshaad1230 on Jul 19, 2011 15:07:38 GMT -5
It should retired and bring things like Surpirse and Double Play. In this economy, they'd be worth more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2011 15:10:26 GMT -5
Whether or not this thread has a point or not, I'll just say that I wish they would bring back either the 1999 wheel layouts or the 2007 wheel layouts.
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Post by MarioGS on Jul 19, 2011 15:49:14 GMT -5
I think they should keep the Million Dollar Wedge. It would make the show look bad if they suddenly dropped their top prize by 1/10.
But I do think they should consider changing its rules. Here's how I would do it: if a contestant picks up the wedge, they get to keep it for the rest of the game no matter what, but it only moves farther if they make it to the bonus round, of course. I mean, we hardly any see any $100,000 winners anyway, plus, I don't think any of those winners since Season 26 have ever picked up the wedge. Another thought is removing the two Bankrupts on the side, and if somebody loses it to a Bankrupt or not solving the puzzle, it will be put back on the wheel the next round. There is actually a promo currently running in Illinois involving a Wheel lottery game, which features a shot of the wheel landing on the Million Dollar Wedge (shot exclusively for this, not a clip from the show) sitting on the pink $300 and with the back side facing up. It looks nice like that, plus it's just about even distance between the two Bankrupt wedges.
But hey, at least we were actually able to see the million properly won after lots of naysaying going on, unlike "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?," where the million can't even be won in a seemingly easy process without having to have a tournament.
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Post by whammy007 on Jul 19, 2011 16:43:32 GMT -5
I'm definitely on the keep side of the fence here. The MDW adds the "big money" feeling to the show, but it needs to be utilized more. Here's what I would do: Million Dollar Token in the vein of the Star Bonus from long ago. Once picked up, it can't be lost, but it's the player's responsibility to win the game in order to play for the million. That way, there's less of a focus on keeping the MDW and more on winning the game (which should be the main goal ANYWAY  ). And personally, I feel like they need some 4-digit wedges on the wheel. Like I mentioned in another thread, I compared the Round 4 wheels from the Big Month of Cash (1987) and the present. Surprisingly, the 1987 wheel had $200 MORE (not counting Free Play) than the 2011 wheel. I know everyone rails against "Mo' Money Syndrome" but there needs to be an adjustment for inflation, especially considering Wheel is a show with no returning champs. |
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Post by germanname1990 on Jul 19, 2011 18:56:05 GMT -5
Are you kidding? Keep it! That's the reason why I watch Wheel every night! ;D
But, yes, there should be a way to make it more winnable. For example, Brazil's version adopted it a year or two ago. There are some differences however. There are three wedges worth one million Brazilian reals. Each contestant has one and place it over any cash value on the wheel. There are no thin Bankrupts/Perde Tudos beside the prize. Besides being lost to a Bankrupt, however, these wedges are also lost when you land on a Lose A Turn/Passo A Vez. There are three Lose A Turn spots on their wheel while there is only one Bankrupt spot.
I know the million real prize has been won at least twice on Brazil's version. So if we can make some changes like that, maybe someone will be more likely to win it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2011 19:00:56 GMT -5
I think the way to win the million is fair, actually... and if you can't lose it on Bankrupt, then that would be unfair since you can lose everything else on it...
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Post by WayoshiM on Jul 19, 2011 21:18:03 GMT -5
The million roughly should be given away once every 4-5 seasons... it's all good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2011 21:30:04 GMT -5
Keep it, but I agree with MarioGS in that if the wedge is lost, rather than being eliminated for the show, it goes back on during the next round. This makes the contestant with the wedge play for more money without having to worry about permanently losing the wedge and it gives the other 2 contestants hope of retrieving the wedge if the Million is lost.
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Post by therealcu2010 on Jul 19, 2011 21:59:02 GMT -5
The million is not supposed to be easily won. If it were won all the time, the show would go broke, fast.
It's fine as it is. I don't think the show needs the million dollar gimmick (I'm, personally, not a fan of it)...but now that it's here to stay might as well keep it as it is.
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Post by jjc927 on Jul 19, 2011 23:36:55 GMT -5
I would definitely keep it. It adds a new dimension to things on the show and there's a lot of strategy moves that can go on when it's in someone's possession. It's always exciting when someone is able to carry it to the bonus round. I also think it should be lost to Bankrupts and it should continue being that you must win the round to keep it, but I wouldn't mind if it returned to the wheel in the next round so that another contestant could possibly get.
My other idea for changing it though would be that contestants who are able to carry it to the bonus round should be given the option of playing the bonus round as normal or playing a special bonus round where they'd win either the million or nothing. What this special bonus round would be exactly I'm not sure. Maybe something like the superpuzzle in Germany or have the contestant need to solve 5 puzzles in 30 seconds having just the RSTLNE and their 4 additional letters showing.
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Post by WayoshiM on Jul 20, 2011 16:50:53 GMT -5
My other idea for changing it though would be that contestants who are able to carry it to the bonus round should be given the option of playing the bonus round as normal or playing a special bonus round where they'd win either the million or nothing. What this special bonus round would be exactly I'm not sure. Maybe something like the superpuzzle in Germany or have the contestant need to solve 5 puzzles in 30 seconds having just the RSTLNE and their 4 additional letters showing. This is a poorly construed idea... everyone would go for the special BR to start, there's no downside (unless you're talking about risking their maingame winnings, which will NOT change). Second of all, whatever Germany does wouldn't work here. We don't have the time to do 5 puzzles, and setting up the difficulty to make it possible but very hard with RSTLNE and the same 4 letters is... very tough. |
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Post by jjc927 on Jul 20, 2011 22:01:28 GMT -5
Well if the downside was that maingame winnings would be lost then noone would go for it. Basically it's idea that I've had for a couple years and have floated around before but know it would never happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2011 22:27:24 GMT -5
Well, if you win a little amount like $9,000, then you would be tempted to take that chance. And I don't think the puzzleboard takes only 1 second to load per puzzle. This would never work on the show.
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Post by realdeo on Jul 21, 2011 2:23:46 GMT -5
I gonna say keep it. The million wedge is the charm. They lost it, hey lost their slot. However, I gonna say that surprise way should be revived from it's death
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Post by an007 on Jul 25, 2011 20:40:12 GMT -5
I'm definitely in the majority with those who say KEEP the MDW. The rules for it are fine as it is. If you lose it to BANKRUPT, you lost it. But as jjc said, it's not a bad idea to have it appear again in the next round for somebody else to have a shot at it.
And Mario, one of the $100,000 winners since Season 26 had the million at one point. It was back on November 17, 2008 when best friends Jackie Caputo and Lorna Lorenzo picked up the MDW with an N during the Mystery Round w/ the category being PEOPLE. They then lost their turn next with a dud letter call (L). That allowed a pair of guys to solve FRESHMAN-YEAR ROOMMATES. Jackie and Lorna were in the lead at that point with $14,550. Just imagine what would have been had the girls took the MDW to the Bonus Round if it weren't for that dud call.
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Post by jordanfed7 on Jul 29, 2011 15:15:54 GMT -5
While I have never been a fan of the Million Dollar Wedge, it would look cheap on the show's part if they were to ever permanently remove that gimmick. The show is still enjoyable to watch, but I feel they need to make some improvements. Here's my two cents...
First off, every round should have a special wedge on the wheel.
ROUND ONE: Jackpot Round
ROUND TWO: Mystery Round
ROUND THREE: A wedge that starts at $5000 and increases $2500 every episode it is not won; it can reach a maximum of $25,000 and will reset to $5000 the next episode. It is picked up just like the trip wedge, not spendable cash.
I agree with many people on the fact that $2500 should be top value for round one, $3500 for round two, and $5000 for round 3. Most of the time contestants never get to spin for $5000 in round 4 and that's always been an exciting aspect of the show.
I also feel that the color layout of the wheel should go back to that found in season 25.
Only two Bankrupts, and the Million Dollar Wedge should cover one of them. These past two seasons there were numerous occasions where all three players hit Bankrupt in a row, and the time limit before speed-up is severely hurt by this, and it bugs me as well. I'd move the MDW on top of the Bankrupt next to the pink $900, and move the second regular Bankrupt to the opposite side of the top dollar wedge (yellow $300 with season 25 layout).
This layout can now reduce some of the "cluttering" that Wheel has used the past two seasons. The Jackpot wedge in round one can sit atop the green $500 like it used to, the two Mystery wedges can sit on the green $500 and blue $500 as used in previous seasons, and the wedge for round 3 (unnamed by me yet), will also sit on the green $500. I never appreciated the Mystery wedges sitting between Free Play and Lose a Turn, and also directly to the left of the MDW.
Bring back the Free Spin and place on the green $300 again. I don't mind Free Play, but it sort of takes away from the whole concept of guessing right or wrong. You pick a good letter, you go again, you miss and wait for your next turn. My suggestion: eliminate the immunity part of the wedge, and have the cost per consonant fluctuate between 3 random values, as listed below.
ROUND ONE: $1000/$500/X
ROUND TWO: $1500/$750/X
ROUND THREE: $2000/$1000/X
Similar to the concept of the Big Money wedge, every spin will randomize the value seen on the screen. If your flipper lands on the screen while it says "X", you Lose a Turn. If not, you may guess a consonant for the denomination listed per each occurrence, or you can guess a vowel at no cost. However, you lose your turn if you guess an incorrect letter.
Let me know what you think of my concepts. If I feel up to it, I will upload the layouts later!
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