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Post by usedletterboard on Jan 17, 2022 15:29:48 GMT -5
Following the Mike Richards saga, it was assumed that Michael Davies would handle EP duties, at least in the interim, for both of the Sony shows. However, I don't think I've ever seen Davies' name appear in the credit roll at the end of the show or on the official website. Schwartz/Stern/Sofia/Sajak are all credited as producers in different capacities. Do we know if Michael Davies is actually onboard, or is the show running without an executive producer until one is tapped on a permanent basis?
As far as I know, Mike Richards is still employed at Sony Pictures and has been overseeing some of its other shows for cable, such as GSN's Chain Reaction.
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Post by MarioGS on Jan 17, 2022 15:49:24 GMT -5
From what I'm hearing, Michael is technically the EP, but is not present at tapings, so rulings and other matters in the studio are handled by the remaining producers (Steve Schwartz, etc.) and Pat. Take this with a grain of salt, but it would explain not only why he's not being credited, but also the fact that he hasn't acknowledged Wheel at all since he first got the gig for the two shows.
And just like Harry, only the other game show is getting all the creativity put into it this season and Wheel is running on autopilot again. Wheel needs Mike back. The only reason he got fired was because of the power J! fans and alumni have on Twitter, and how much that vocal fanbase influences the show. Nobody cared enough when he was with TPIR/LMAD, and nobody would have if he had tried to take over hosting Wheel.
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Post by Flerbert419 on Jan 18, 2022 0:21:26 GMT -5
Sorry, I think that ship has sailed. He's damaged goods at this point. But also not ideal that they really have nobody in charge, so time to find a permanent replacement.
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Post by therealcu2010 on Jan 18, 2022 0:42:10 GMT -5
Wheel needs Mike back. The only reason he got fired was because of the power J! fans and alumni have on Twitter, and how much that vocal fanbase influences the show. Nobody cared enough when he was with TPIR/LMAD, and nobody would have if he had tried to take over hosting Wheel. Mike got fired because he's a piece of shit. He did it to himself.
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Post by jarvisabrodie89 on Jan 18, 2022 9:09:33 GMT -5
I think it may be safe to assume that they're holding off on crediting anyone as Executive Producer until the very end of the current season going into Season 40 at the very latest.
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Post by wheelfan4life on Jan 19, 2022 14:08:35 GMT -5
It's really not that big of a surprise that Michael Davies is giving Jeopardy more love than Wheel. After all, what game show was he best known for producing for many years? The original US version of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. Which of the two Merv Griffin-created shows produced by Sony is more similar to WWTBAM? Jeopardy, of course. To the point that several Jeopardy alumni have also been on Millionaire.
Sony probably should have gotten two different people to replace Harry when he retired, one to produce Wheel, the other to produce Jeopardy. Maybe they could've hired Mike Richards as Wheel's producer, and Davies as Jeopardy's producer. Then all that BS that got Mike fired would never have happened because he would've been focusing on just Wheel. But given Sony's financial troubles the past decade, I'm not surprised they wanted to hire just one person to replace Harry.
If they do get a new EP for Wheel, they need to get someone who really truly loves the show and cares about it's future. Because if it keeps running on autopilot like this, who knows how much longer the show will last.
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Post by wheellover65 on Jan 19, 2022 16:16:43 GMT -5
Is it possible Davis has just focused on Jeopardy because that's where his attention *needs* to be? Jeopardy has had a rocky time over the last year or two, maybe after all the dust finally settles from that mess, he can focus on Wheel? Wheel's been able to run on autopilot for this long, what's another season or two?
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Post by usedletterboard on Jan 20, 2022 10:46:52 GMT -5
From the reports I read last summer, Mike's presence was very uncomfortable for the staff of Jeopardy!, and I would assume that since both shows share several employees it would have been a very awkward and tense workplace with him sticking around. Gifted at his profession or not, Mike Richards is simply the product of his own undoing.
All that aside, I must say that Sony has a penchant for poor decision-making, particularly its hiring practices both behind-the-scenes and on-camera. Having control of multimillion dollar properties requires sound judgment, yet the company treats them like they're an afterthought. By all accounts, Michael Davies is doing a spectacular job in his role as interim EP next door. Why can't the company afford to do the same for Wheel? The more I think about it, it seems more like a Sony problem than a Davies problem. Remember this when the time comes to find Pat and Vanna's successors.
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Post by MarioGS on Jan 20, 2022 10:51:32 GMT -5
Is it possible Davis has just focused on Jeopardy because that's where his attention *needs* to be? Jeopardy has had a rocky time over the last year or two, maybe after all the dust finally settles from that mess, he can focus on Wheel? Wheel's been able to run on autopilot for this long, what's another season or two?
Jeopardy!'s fine now. If anything, it's just as successful and popular now as it was in 2019. Everyone forgot about what happened over the past year thanks to the perfect timing of three near-consecutive notable champions, plus they're refusing to rerun any of the other hosts to avoid any reminders of the past (even Alex, except for the JGOAT syndie edits). J! is lucky those champs have been the perfect distraction to the public. Without them, they wouldn't still be blowing Wheel out of the water the same way they were in the last few years of the Trebek era. If anything, J! is better off running on autopilot than Wheel. Wheel needs the attention and creativity, because unless they plan to still do the tournament or give away a house again for Home Sweet Home week, nothing is going to make it stand out.
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Post by newt on Jan 22, 2022 12:42:20 GMT -5
I think Sony should have hired two separate executive producers in the first place. One for Jeopardy! and one for Wheel. I believe if Mike Richards never landed Jeopardy's hosting gig, he would still be EP and all of his past issues would never have come to light. Wheel was doing well under Mike's watch during Season 38 and the start of Season 39. I think Mike would have brought more creativity to Wheel if he was still EP. For example, I loved that he brought back "Changing Key's" after a 21 year absence. If was is still EP I think he would bring audiences back to the Culver City studio with a limited capacity. In addition, I think Mike would allow fully vaccinated audiences to attend live tapings, maintain social distance and possibly wearing masks since this is going to be the new normal. To my opinion, if Mike Richards is still Wheel's EP, I think he would start doing remotes again such as New York City, Hawaii, etc.
This is what I found on Variety.com in August 2021 when Mike was fired and Davies becoming Interim EP.
"It’s not believed that Davies is in line to permanently take over as EP of “Jeopardy!” and “Wheel of Fortune”; he has his own thriving business and is based in New York, where he produces a wide variety of unscripted series like “Millionaire” and talk shows such as “Watch What Happens Live.” Embassy Row is also ramping up its stable of podcasts. Additionally, Davies is a soccer pundit through the “Men in Blazers” television show, podcast, and digital brand, which he co-hosts and runs with Roger Bennett."
I don't think Michael Davies would become permanent EP since he is an interim. I think Sony should have kept Mike as Wheel's EP instead of dismissing him from his EP duties for both shows. If Sony decide to hire a new EP I hope it's one who truly cares about Wheel and bring more creativity just like the early days of Mike Richards. If Michael Davies is going to be Jeopardy's permanent EP, I think they should hire a separate EP for Wheel or give re-hire Mike to give him a second which seems unlikely.
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Post by trevor807 on Jan 22, 2022 17:23:10 GMT -5
As said before, Richards is damaged goods. It wouldn't be a wise move to rehire someone who got himself publicly disgraced by being a complete jerk whose own staff members on J! (some of whom also work on Wheel) called him out in a meeting (although Sony has done even stupider things with the shows in hindsight). That said, I agree that Davies is basically a modern Harry Friedman: great on J!, but on Wheel you could feel that distinct lack of passion. And that if Richards signed on for just Wheel and Davies signed on for just J!, both shows would still be doing great and Richards wouldn't appoint himself as the successor to a late, beloved, respected icon. Hopefully they find a new EP for Wheel who actually cares about the show going forward, but that's probably unlikely.
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Post by therealcu2010 on Jan 23, 2022 8:53:16 GMT -5
Because some of you continue to forget this... 8. Finally, there is no great anti- Wheel pro- Jeopardy conspiracy, so no accusing Sony or the stations of showing "favoritism". I'm not the only one tired of reading it, and it's dragging the reputation of our community (and everything we've worked so hard to build) through the mud. As such, if it continues, we will be suspending accounts. Final warning.
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Post by woffan4ever on Feb 8, 2022 14:37:25 GMT -5
Why are so many screaming that Wheel needs creativity? I just don't get it. Seems to me that no matter what they do, it is never going to be good enough for some of you. Many of us were tired of the themed weeks; they've cut them down drastically. Many of you begged for the classic theme to come back; they brought it back, albeit it revamped heavily. Many of you wanted the set changed/upgraded; they did that, too. They've gotten rid of FREE PLAY. What else do you want? At this point, if we felt the way some of you do, we might as well throw the whole show away and be done with it. A show running on "autopilot" is far from bad. In fact, it's a damn good testament to how great the show is. If after 38 years, J! isn't enough of a well-oiled machine to run fine for a while without an EP, then one should ask themself why. Both shows are great; they have their pros and cons. They're not perfect. But, they're obviously doing something right to keep going for almost 40 years and still draw in millions every week.
Hell, if Pat would take it, give him Wheel's EP job. If anyone knows how to run that show, it's him with 40 years under his belt.
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Post by Guint on Feb 9, 2022 18:03:54 GMT -5
I don't think it's the fact that J! isn't capable running without an active EP, it's that the last EP left the hosting situation in such a huge mess that it needed more care in the short term to right the ship. I appreciate the fact that Wheel has done some changes, but eh. The major problem with Wheel for me is that the show feels incredibly stale. None of those changes that you mention really garner any excitement for me, and I think it's largely due to the fact that the show kinda aged along with its target audience, and it doesn't feel as bombastic as it used to be. Hell, while I like the fact they're using Changing Keys again, I argue that the rendition we got is actually worse than the previous theme they were using, because that one had some real pulse to it, while the Changing Keys rendition plays to the lethargy that plagues the show. The last change the show made that actually excited me was when they changed the Bonus Round so that you could have your choice of three categories, because it really broke the monotony of having to see people lose utterly ridiculous Thing or Phrase puzzles every night. And now that variety is starting to fade again, so they messed that up too. I've been mentioning to several people that the Wheel of my childhood (late 90s-early 00s) was the show's peak, and don't worry, I'm not one of those fanboys that wants every single little minute detail of it back (even though my fake shows are heavily inspired by that era). But there are two major things I'm fond of from that era that the producers really should embrace and bring back: - The pacing. I don't know exactly what Wheel was doing 20 years ago to make the show feel like it was moving along, but they sure as hell were doing something correctly about it. I don't know if it was necessarily lack of sponsorships either, because Wheel had plenty of those back then (although I guess they didn't have to devote a bunch of time to the Prize Puzzle copy, but I digress). But it seemed like that pace slowed down over the 2000s, progressively got worse in the next decade, and is all but dead now.
- Pop cultural relevance. The show really seemed to have a finger on American pop culture and it was reflective in the prizes being offered and the cultural puzzles were a great reflection of the times. Now all the puzzles seem plucked right out of a travel brochure. The first season of Celebrity Wheel of Fortune was such a breath of fresh air because even though the game itself was super broken, everybody just seemed like they were having fun, from Pat and Vanna to the contestants to the people writing the puzzles (we need more of that stuff, please).
Mike seemed like the guy who was going to give Wheel the breath of fresh air it desperately needed; it was certainly showing signs of life again, but then he had to be Icarus on a different game show, and now all the progress he tried to make seems half-done at best. Wheel can certainly coast for now while the hosting situation at Jeopardy! stabilizes, but they really need an EP that's going to come in and clean house sooner rather than later, especially as the show approaches a major anniversary season.
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Post by MarioGS on Mar 18, 2022 20:11:57 GMT -5
From what I'm hearing, Michael is technically the EP, but is not present at tapings, so rulings and other matters in the studio are handled by the remaining producers (Steve Schwartz, etc.) and Pat. Take this with a grain of salt, but it would explain not only why he's not being credited, but also the fact that he hasn't acknowledged Wheel at all since he first got the gig for the two shows. Just want to point out on tonight's episode, Pat addressed Steve offstage, implying Michael Davies is in fact not in the studio. However, it was to ask Steve a question regarding the show in the early 90's, so Davies would not have been the person to ask even if he was there. I believe Steve has been with the show since 1989, not necessarily always as a producer.
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Post by usedletterboard on Mar 19, 2022 10:05:34 GMT -5
Wasn't Davies associated with Merv Griffin Enterprises in the 80s and/or 90s? He seemed to imply as much in one of his blog posts on the J! website a few months ago. Not that he would be familiar with the existence of decades-old Wheel merchandise, of course, but I don't think he is a stranger to these two shows from a production standpoint.
Despite his current involvement appearing to be reduced to a purely administrative level, I still think it's a good thing that he's on board. Sure, things might be stale in the interim to the chagrin of hardcore fans like us. However, if there's somebody you want guiding the long-term future of the show (i.e., Pat and Vanna's successors), it's an expert in the game show business like Michael Davies. The people at Sony badly mucked up the host selection next door and proved that they have no idea they know what's going on. The fact that the vacancy continues almost a year and a half following Trebek's passing is downright embarrassing, and has only furthered divisions among that show's fanbase and only aggravates it with each passing day. When there isn't a Mike Richards around to kiss up to big bosses, it should make everyone here sleep a little better at night knowing there is somebody who truly loves and cares about the genre around to influence the decision making.
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