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Post by jeopardyfan939 on Aug 6, 2022 19:31:13 GMT -5
Since Michael Davies announced the ToC will be held annually every November, I wonder if this means they're going to reinstate the 5-day limit for returning champions (especially because during Amy's run, some people – including one former contestant – wanted it to be brought back). A world in which Jeopardy! reinstates it’s 5 day limit is the same one where Mike Richards gets his job back. It’s NEVER going to happen, and Amy only proved what a goldmine of publicity it is for someone to win 10, 20, or 30 games. It gets eyeballs on the show and it becomes a spectacle for the home viewer, people tune in to see how long contestants like Matt, Amy, Mattea, or Ryan can keep their streak going. Considering the past year alone produced so much major publicity the show wouldn’t have had if it weren’t for the sky’s the limit rule, they’re never going back. Did Mike Richards seriously have in mind reinstating the 5-day limit? Was it also his idea to bring back the globe logo? In other words had Harry Friedman been EP for Seasons 37 & 38, would there had probably not been a globe logo (you know the globe behind the Jeopardy text)? |
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Post by wheelfan910 on Aug 6, 2022 20:03:45 GMT -5
A world in which Jeopardy! reinstates it’s 5 day limit is the same one where Mike Richards gets his job back. It’s NEVER going to happen, and Amy only proved what a goldmine of publicity it is for someone to win 10, 20, or 30 games. It gets eyeballs on the show and it becomes a spectacle for the home viewer, people tune in to see how long contestants like Matt, Amy, Mattea, or Ryan can keep their streak going. Considering the past year alone produced so much major publicity the show wouldn’t have had if it weren’t for the sky’s the limit rule, they’re never going back. Did Mike Richards seriously have in mind reinstating the 5-day limit? Was it also his idea to bring back the globe logo? In other words had Harry Friedman been EP for Seasons 37 & 38, would there had probably not been a globe logo (you know the globe behind the Jeopardy text)? I like to think Mike was smart enough to leave the limit alone, but it really didn’t come into effect much during his lone full season as EP as the revolving door of guest hosts didn’t allow any contestants to establish a rhythm based off the host’s tone as it was changing constantly. I couldn’t answer the globe question since graphics are really the least of my concerns when it comes to Jeopardy! |
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Post by jeopardyfan939 on Aug 7, 2022 0:08:08 GMT -5
Did Mike Richards seriously have in mind reinstating the 5-day limit? Was it also his idea to bring back the globe logo? In other words had Harry Friedman been EP for Seasons 37 & 38, would there had probably not been a globe logo (you know the globe behind the Jeopardy text)? I like to think Mike was smart enough to leave the limit alone, but it really didn’t come into effect much during his lone full season as EP as the revolving door of guest hosts didn’t allow any contestants to establish a rhythm based off the host’s tone as it was changing constantly. I couldn’t answer the globe question since graphics are really the least of my concerns when it comes to Jeopardy!Matt Amodio was the only contestant from Season 37 who actually established his rhythm while playing under multiple hosts during his run – four hosts in Season 37 and two hosts in Season 38. The thing with the graphics is that from 1984-1996 they changed once every few seasons, save the first two seasons and Season 10. When the sushi bar set was rolled out, the graphics began changing every season, especially once Harry Friedman became the show's producer in 1997. |
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Post by jeopardyfan939 on Aug 9, 2022 12:27:41 GMT -5
We do know:
- Ken is hosting from September until December
- Mayim will be hosting in January, and will include new tournaments
- Second Chance tournament debuts this coming season.
- ToC airs in November
I heard on the podcast that Michael Davies wants to bring back the Teen Tournament but rebrand it as the High School Tournament. He did say "High School Week" in the podcast. I wonder if he intends it to be a one-week tournament where you have three semifinal matches followed by the two-day finals like we saw with some past tournaments (e.g. the 10th Anniversary Tournament, 1997 and 2001 International Tournaments, and the 1998 Teen Reunion Tournament), or if he will implement the same format that Kids Week had (being played just like regular competition but without returning champions).
I am also wondering if the College Championship is returning to the syndicated series but keeping the 36-player format instead of reverting back to the 15-player tourney. That would be interesting if that happened. The tournament would either have to start or conclude on a Wednesday, but I think doing the former would be the best; that way you can have regular games air on Monday and Tuesday, and then kick off the tournament on Wednesday.
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Post by wheelfan910 on Aug 9, 2022 13:05:22 GMT -5
We do know: - Ken is hosting from September until December - Mayim will be hosting in January, and will include new tournaments - Second Chance tournament debuts this coming season. - ToC airs in November I heard on the podcast that Michael Davies wants to bring back the Teen Tournament but rebrand it as the High School Tournament. He did say "High School Week" in the podcast. I wonder if he intends it to be a one-week tournament where you have three semifinal matches followed by the two-day finals like we saw with some past tournaments (e.g. the 10th Anniversary Tournament, 1997 and 2001 International Tournaments, and the 1998 Teen Reunion Tournament), or if he will implement the same format that Kids Week had (being played just like regular competition but without returning champions). I am also wondering if the College Championship is returning to the syndicated series but keeping the 36-player format instead of reverting back to the 15-player tourney. That would be interesting if that happened. The tournament would either have to start or conclude on a Wednesday, but I think doing the former would be the best; that way you can have regular games air on Monday and Tuesday, and then kick off the tournament on Wednesday. Michael has said that J!NCC intends to happen every year in Primetime. The format this past year was a compromise from originally being a team format and still having to contribute 9 hours worth of shows for ABC. |
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Post by jeopardyfan939 on Aug 12, 2022 14:25:56 GMT -5
I was able to score tickets to yesterday's morning session, which ended up consisting of two shows due to some technical delays and game stopdowns. Not a lot of changes to report: - The set remains exactly the same as last season. The colors on some of the backdrop fixtures appeared more vibrant in person, but the difference may just be on account of my TV settings at home.
- All the music is the same as Season 38. I'm not sure if something is in the works for this season for new Final Jeopardy music to be dubbed in post production, but they played the usual version from S25 inside the studio.
- For the first time in many seasons, the graphics are completely unchanged from the previous year. I could only capture a glimpse of the opening graphics montage from the monitors on the judges table, but from what I saw, they appeared to be exactly the same as S38. Again, this is something that could be changed in post, but given the unchanged overall visual identity, I wouldn't be surprised if everything stayed the same.
- The one noticeable change is that Ken is now introduced as "the host of Jeopardy," as others had previously reported. He made a short introductory spiel but didn't spend more than a couple sentences acknowledging his new role as a permanent host. He's probably been around long enough for the producers to try to downplay the transition as much as possible, as they want to limit references to its drawn out nature. Funny enough, he tripped up the first sentence of his opening remarks when he was first introduced, which caused the whole intro to have to be reshot. The producers and the audience got a kick out of that.
- Jimmy McGuire is the stage manager, now in his second year. Now that audiences are back, he took up Johnny Gilbert's role as the warm up guy. Sarah Whitcomb Foss was the in-studio announcer, with Johnny's contestant introductions later dubbed in post. She also takes the slate announcement duties before the show, in addition to sitting at the judges table as one of the producers. The opening spiel and host introductions are recordings pre-taped by Johnny and played in the studio. Jimmy said he's stage managing Wheel in August, but didn't seem to imply any permanent role there or that he would be working on Wheel past this month. He also confirmed the permanent disbandment of the Clue Crew with no plans for its return, though he and Sarah are still involved with the show in different capacities.
- Ken doesn't really interact with the audience or take questions during breaks the same way Alex used to. He came down to the front of the stage after the first show's commercial break to thank the audience for coming and mentioned it was his first time in front of a Jeopardy audience since his Greatest of All Time appearance - and that nobody would have been happier to see guests return than Alex. I feel like he will open up to the crowd with time, but he doesn't seem comfortable enough to do it the same way that Alex did for so many years. He was often cracking jokes during the breaks, which the audience enjoyed.
The games taped yesterday, August 2, will air the week of September 12 for the season premiere week. Despite only two tape dates this week, regular shows taped instead of tournament episodes. The next two weeks will consist of three tape dates per week (amounting to 40 taped this month - 10 this week, 15 the next and 15 the following week). Ken was a total pro and honestly impressed me with how competent and efficient he was for somebody with limited experience in Hollywood. It's a really well oiled machine on the Jeopardy side. I was really bummed that I couldn't secure tickets for Wheel on this same trip, but maybe I will later in the season. I walked past Stage 11 on the way to my taping, but while the soundstage door was open to the rest of the lot, I couldn't catch a glimpse of the set due to the placement of the backdrops. EDIT: Forgot to add one more visual change now that audiences are back. The opening shot coming straight from the introductory graphics is a sweeping crane shot of the audience using the jib camera that ends up with the a view of the stage. It's hard to explain given my lack of technical expertise, but you will see it when the shows air in September. Dubbing in new music post production is nothing new. For the first few or so weeks of Season 14, they still played the original Think! music in the studio, but then dubbed in Steve Kaplan's version post-production. This was the case with all episodes that used the short-lived piano version and early episodes with the trumpet version that lasted until Steve Kaplan's music was retired. And during Wheel's 34th Season, at least a couple weeks originally played the 2006-2016 cues in the studio but were dubbed over with the 2017 cues post-production. Trust me on this because I've watched a lot of early Season 14 episodes on YouTube and DailyMotion, and I could hear parts of the original Think! cue bleeding through (especially the last timpani note). |
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Post by SmashWhammy on Aug 15, 2022 19:18:58 GMT -5
From the latest episode of the podcast: no more "2 day total point affairs", as they call the tournament finals - The new format will have 21 people (including two winners from the Second Chance games)
- Amy, Matt, and Mattea will be seeded into the semis automaticallyList item 3
- 6 Quarterfinal games, 9 Semis, NO wild cards
- finals are first to 3 wins (like the GOAT tournament)
side note: hope you enjoy that theme at the end of the podcast!
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Post by wheelfan4life on Aug 15, 2022 23:04:31 GMT -5
I have no idea why Sony thinks Jeopardy deserves a second chance week/tournament more than Wheel does. Especially since these two contestants will be getting into the TOC instead of regular winners who probably deserve to be in it more.
There is one change that I would LOVE Jeopardy to make this season. Can they please get rid of that unnecessary hashtag in front of the logo bug when it appears on screen? What does it add? I know some of you are going to reply to me that they do it to appeal to millennials who can't get enough of social media, but here's something to consider. Is it really necessary to put on the screen a hashtag that anyone would think to put in their Jeopardy-related post on social media? Does it really get more millennials to watch the show? I'd rather doubt it. I think hashtags can be used in a creative way by TV shows, but just putting an obvious one on screen like Jeopardy does isn't a good way to use one.
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Post by trevor807 on Aug 16, 2022 2:08:52 GMT -5
Especially since these two contestants will be getting into the TOC instead of regular winners who probably deserve to be in it more. All the four-time champs have been confirmed to be in, actually. Not getting in over anyone 4+ wins. |
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Post by jeopardyfan939 on Aug 16, 2022 7:51:42 GMT -5
From the latest episode of the podcast: no more "2 day total point affairs", as they call the tournament finals - The new format will have 21 people (including two winners from the Second Chance games)
- Amy, Matt, and Mattea will be seeded into the semis automaticallyList item 3
- 6 Quarterfinal games, 9 Semis, NO wild cards
- finals are first to 3 wins (like the GOAT tournament)
side note: hope you enjoy that theme at the end of the podcast!
Looks like the ToC will be a three to four week event with this format. But at least Michael Davies pointed out that this is not necessarily going to be the new permanent format moving forward; he could change the format if he wanted to. |
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Post by usedletterboard on Aug 16, 2022 8:41:31 GMT -5
I have no idea why Sony thinks Jeopardy deserves a second chance week/tournament more than Wheel does. Especially since these two contestants will be getting into the TOC instead of regular winners who probably deserve to be in it more. To me, it doesn't seem like a matter of Sony wanting it more for one show over the other. It's Michael Davies' creative direction, particularly the realization of his impression of Jeopardy! as a sport, that enabled one over the other. The Second Chance Tournament is now acting as the de facto Wild Card competition similar to leagues such as the MLB and NFL, or the play-in tournament in the NBA. Wheel's current format doesn't lend itself as well to a Second Chance Tournament. Maybe other tournaments, but not a second chance. How often do extremely close games occur? Winners can easily go out of reach from their nearest opponent with a Prize Puzzle win, a hop aboard the Express, picking up a prize wedge on the wheel, etc. If there's an itch to incoporate a tournament format, the producers could rework the special events. For instance, convert College Week into a Friday Finals format with a minimum grand prize. Or better yet, turn Big Money Week into an actual event rather than an occasion that solely exists to advertise the slot machines. Back on topic, somebody ripped the long excerpt of the new J! theme that played at the end of the podcast and edited it with the clean parts that were previously available. It sounds great! |
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Post by therealcu2010 on Aug 16, 2022 13:50:22 GMT -5
There is one change that I would LOVE Jeopardy to make this season. Can they please get rid of that unnecessary hashtag in front of the logo bug when it appears on screen? What does it add? I know some of you are going to reply to me that they do it to appeal to millennials who can't get enough of social media, but here's something to consider. Is it really necessary to put on the screen a hashtag that anyone would think to put in their Jeopardy-related post on social media? Does it really get more millennials to watch the show? I'd rather doubt it. I think hashtags can be used in a creative way by TV shows, but just putting an obvious one on screen like Jeopardy does isn't a good way to use one. The hashtags aren't so much there to get more millennials to watch the show, but rather, to get people to talk about the show on Twitter. Nielsen tracks the usage of the official hashtag on social media, and uses them to generate ratings. They might be annoying, but they're far too useful from a marketing perspective, and since the industry is profit-first, they're not going anywhere. |
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Post by jeopardyfan939 on Aug 17, 2022 11:27:01 GMT -5
I have no idea why Sony thinks Jeopardy deserves a second chance week/tournament more than Wheel does. Especially since these two contestants will be getting into the TOC instead of regular winners who probably deserve to be in it more. To me, it doesn't seem like a matter of Sony wanting it more for one show over the other. It's Michael Davies' creative direction, particularly the realization of his impression of Jeopardy! as a sport, that enabled one over the other. The Second Chance Tournament is now acting as the de facto Wild Card competition similar to leagues such as the MLB and NFL, or the play-in tournament in the NBA. Wheel's current format doesn't lend itself as well to a Second Chance Tournament. Maybe other tournaments, but not a second chance. How often do extremely close games occur? Winners can easily go out of reach from their nearest opponent with a Prize Puzzle win, a hop aboard the Express, picking up a prize wedge on the wheel, etc. If there's an itch to incoporate a tournament format, the producers could rework the special events. For instance, convert College Week into a Friday Finals format with a minimum grand prize. Or better yet, turn Big Money Week into an actual event rather than an occasion that solely exists to advertise the slot machines. Back on topic, somebody ripped the long excerpt of the new J! theme that played at the end of the podcast and edited it with the clean parts that were previously available. It sounds great! The new theme didn't have guitar licks in Season 38, but now it does. And I have a feeling the guitar version will be the one used this coming season, being dubbed in post-production for the first few episodes of the new season. |
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Post by wheelfan910 on Aug 17, 2022 14:52:07 GMT -5
To me, it doesn't seem like a matter of Sony wanting it more for one show over the other. It's Michael Davies' creative direction, particularly the realization of his impression of Jeopardy! as a sport, that enabled one over the other. The Second Chance Tournament is now acting as the de facto Wild Card competition similar to leagues such as the MLB and NFL, or the play-in tournament in the NBA. Wheel's current format doesn't lend itself as well to a Second Chance Tournament. Maybe other tournaments, but not a second chance. How often do extremely close games occur? Winners can easily go out of reach from their nearest opponent with a Prize Puzzle win, a hop aboard the Express, picking up a prize wedge on the wheel, etc. If there's an itch to incoporate a tournament format, the producers could rework the special events. For instance, convert College Week into a Friday Finals format with a minimum grand prize. Or better yet, turn Big Money Week into an actual event rather than an occasion that solely exists to advertise the slot machines. Back on topic, somebody ripped the long excerpt of the new J! theme that played at the end of the podcast and edited it with the clean parts that were previously available. It sounds great! The new theme didn't have guitar licks in Season 38, but now it does. And I have a feeling the guitar version will be the one used this coming season, being dubbed in post-production for the first few episodes of the new season. Someone who attended a taping can clarify otherwise, but this theme isn’t going to be used in S39. Davo said it was an alternate version that bleeding fingers cut. |
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Post by jeopardyfan939 on Aug 18, 2022 11:33:50 GMT -5
The new theme didn't have guitar licks in Season 38, but now it does. And I have a feeling the guitar version will be the one used this coming season, being dubbed in post-production for the first few episodes of the new season. Someone who attended a taping can clarify otherwise, but this theme isn’t going to be used in S39. Davo said it was an alternate version that bleeding fingers cut. If that is the case, then I can see the 2021 theme likely being a placeholder for a music refresh in S40. |
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Post by hettymay50 on Aug 22, 2022 15:14:37 GMT -5
the Season 38 title card does have a few differences from the previous season's version (smaller dots on the more realistic globe, text is a bit more golden-hued, bit more of an aura around the globe). Very minor, though. Other than that, this season's title card is almost the same as last season. That's why one change I would like to see next season is an entirely new title card and go back to having a new one every season, like we have seen during the Harry Friedman era. They will they just didn't make too many changes to it last year on count of the hosting situation |
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Post by trevor807 on Aug 22, 2022 15:53:55 GMT -5
Other than that, this season's title card is almost the same as last season. That's why one change I would like to see next season is an entirely new title card and go back to having a new one every season, like we have seen during the Harry Friedman era. They will they just didn't make too many changes to it last year on count of the hosting situation You do realize that somebody already said the contrary, don't you? buyavowel.boards.net/post/125636 |
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Post by hettymay50 on Aug 23, 2022 11:08:30 GMT -5
With four months remaining in Season 38, I would like to take a little time to say how much better this season has played out compared to last season. However, this thread is to mention some possible changes and predictions for Season 39. What changes do you want to see on Jeopardy! next season? I can list my preferences, and feel free to post any changes you would like to see for next season. - Bring back the studio audience - New title card (don't keep reusing the Season 37 title card, even though I like the fact that the globe intro was brought back) - Refresh the music package, or at least have Bleeding Fingers Music compose a new version of the FJ! think music. In all honesty, it's time for the 10/13/08 Think! cue to go because it doesn't fit the new theme. - New set. I think it's long overdue for an entirely-new set to be rolled out. The current set has been in use since Season 30, even with the modifications from last season. - Resume holding the Teen Tournament (unless it's being replaced by the Second Chance Tournament) - Name Ken Jennings the new permanent host for the daily syndicated series, and have Mayim Bialik do primetime spinoffs. And one question comes to mind. At least in recent episodes, I haven't seen any video clues being presented by the Clue Crew. Is it possible TPTB is getting rid of the Clue Crew? They did not reuse the title card from season 37 they updated it although it looks similar there are different 37 there was a pinkish color behind the Jeopardy globe ot was darker in 38 also the globe appears at the beginning of the intro in 38 but at the end on 37 also the Jeopardy spinning around the globe in 37 was taken off and the Jeopardy logo Aldo was also was a little darker in color it was similar but not the same logo |
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Post by MarioGS on Aug 24, 2022 8:42:57 GMT -5
I have no idea why Sony thinks Jeopardy deserves a second chance week/tournament more than Wheel does. Especially since these two contestants will be getting into the TOC instead of regular winners who probably deserve to be in it more. To me, it doesn't seem like a matter of Sony wanting it more for one show over the other. It's Michael Davies' creative direction, particularly the realization of his impression of Jeopardy! as a sport, that enabled one over the other. The Second Chance Tournament is now acting as the de facto Wild Card competition similar to leagues such as the MLB and NFL, or the play-in tournament in the NBA. Wheel's current format doesn't lend itself as well to a Second Chance Tournament. Maybe other tournaments, but not a second chance. How often do extremely close games occur? Winners can easily go out of reach from their nearest opponent with a Prize Puzzle win, a hop aboard the Express, picking up a prize wedge on the wheel, etc. Wheel is the perfect show for a second chance week or a tournament. It just can't be compared to Jeopardy!'s because their circumstances are different; theirs is more of a "you almost made it" thing. If Wheel does have a second chance week, it should be for the contestants who only get to spin once all game and get a penalty wedge, which we still see a few times per season to this day, or maybe those who solve the bonus puzzle after the buzzer. Also, think of the publicity Wheel could get if they brought back people from viral missolves (should they agree to return). Wheel is pretty much the only remaining game show where you can't come back for any reason other than a successful appeal. Even the new Press Your Luck is doing "second chance" episodes now. Everyone, including Pat, keeps saying "Champions and tournaments don't work well on Wheel because there's too much luck", and ironically, the game show that's arguably the least luck-based is the one getting the special event that Wheel should have had for years, albeit for different reasons. There's no reason Wheel can't have this. Tournaments or any kind of event that brings back contestants are never going to happen as long as Pat is still there, especially since he's now a consulting producer. I'm not sure how Mike Richards managed to convince Pat and the other producers to at least try one, but the fact that they tossed it as soon as he was out the door shows their insistence on keeping Wheel robotically one-and-done and self-contained even if they already put the word out and had to watch its sister show continue to cream them in ratings and publicity during a time where people thought the show would be doomed. Not to discredit Bellamie before we even see her in action, but I really wonder what kind of special events or spinoffs, if any, Davies would have brought to Wheel if he had taken over it as originally planned, or if he would have just done like Harry and did nothing and let Wheel run on "it ain't broke, don't fix it" autopilot. Would he have taken the "sport" approach to Wheel, too? He certainly could, especially because Wheel has a physical aspect to its gameplay. Or he could have taken a gambling/table game approach to it as well. There is one change that I would LOVE Jeopardy to make this season. Can they please get rid of that unnecessary hashtag in front of the logo bug when it appears on screen? What does it add? I know some of you are going to reply to me that they do it to appeal to millennials who can't get enough of social media, but here's something to consider. Is it really necessary to put on the screen a hashtag that anyone would think to put in their Jeopardy-related post on social media? Does it really get more millennials to watch the show? I'd rather doubt it. I think hashtags can be used in a creative way by TV shows, but just putting an obvious one on screen like Jeopardy does isn't a good way to use one. This bothers me, too, but mainly because Wheel still doesn't do this. And yes, that bug does encourage people to post about the show. You'd think Wheel would have one given that it's more uniform in its broadcast and only airs in one of two time slots on each coast, whereas many will start seeing several #jeopardy posts a few hours before they see it in their own city. I actually have some original broadcast recordings of Season 34 of Wheel that have promos for Jeopardy!'s social media as bumpers. Obviously, Sony has never done the vice-versa. Wheel did not even get an equivalent promo for at least another year. Unless something unbelievable happens on Wheel like the ANOTHER FEATHER fiasco, people are hesitant to post about Wheel on social media because their friends will laugh at them for watching "an old people show". The hashtag does make a difference, and there's no way J! is getting rid of it. |
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Post by wheelfan1996 on Aug 26, 2022 17:03:47 GMT -5
One thing I noticed.. and no one's pointed this out- Lisa Broffman is apparently now Co- Executive Producer of the show, according to the show's credits. I am assuming her role is similar to Schwartz's here on Wheel.
One change I hope happens sometime in the near future- changing the consolation prizes- 1K and 2K aren't enough for contestants nowadays. I would like more variety (maybe give out prizes like trips or packages like they used to) or up the dollar amounts to adjust for inflation. I hope road shows come back at some point as well- people would love to see that.
One thing that bugs me- Johnny's tomorrow on Jeopardy previewing the next episodes contestants- others may like it, but I feel it's sort of uncessary. I liked it when he simply said "Jeopardy was created by Merv Griffin!" more.
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