germanname1990
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Post by germanname1990 on May 31, 2013 0:03:50 GMT -5
I know it's possible today that you can solve after spinning up Free Play, but earlier this week, I couldn't sleep out of anticipation for what would happen tonight, so I decided to read the Wheel of Fortune book I have from St. Martin's publishing.
In the 1987 book written by David Sams and Robert Shook, the rules started you could solve after spinning up a dollar amount (or Free Spin like in that Kenny Rogers puzzle in NYC back in 1988), but you would not receive the money you just spun up. So let's say you have $2900 and you spun up $700 and for some reason immediately solve it. You only get the $2900.
They stated another rule which is not necessarily true, and it's in regards to the top values. As it was written before the shopping segment was dropped on the nighttime version, the rules stated that $1000 was top value in round 1, $2000 in round 2 (Huh?), and $5000 in round 3. Yep, I know. I was just talking to WheelGenius about this a few weeks ago. Although $2000 was probably never the top value for round 2 on the nighttime version at the time, in my viewpoint, it should've been.
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Post by WayoshiM on May 31, 2013 8:28:39 GMT -5
Bizarre. I'm sure a letter call is required on spinning now.
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Post by Bryce L. on May 31, 2013 9:31:34 GMT -5
Very interesting rule they had then... any other rules mentioned in that book which were not obvious to infer simply by watching an episode or two from that era?
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Post by gameshowguy2000 on May 31, 2013 12:12:21 GMT -5
Let me ask, was that an official book?
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Post by Bryce L. on May 31, 2013 12:56:28 GMT -5
And as far as I'm aware, $2,000 was never used as a playable value in nighttime (the $2,000 wedge was always covered over by the $5,000 wedge, correct?)
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germanname1990
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Post by germanname1990 on Jun 1, 2013 13:20:55 GMT -5
Let me ask, was that an official book? I don't think it's official, but sometimes unofficial stuff such as ours can be a helpful source. Now here are some other things to note, and this is from 1987 standards When the contestants' backs are turned, the letters on the puzzle board are partially revealed (two sides of the trilon face the contestant area). Another time contestants have to turn their backs besides an in-round commercial is when a technical problem occurs. This is true even with the current puzzle board. When I went to see the show live in 2002 at Chicago's Navy Pier, one of the white squares turned blue. The contestants turned their back. Ultimately, the puzzle was scrapped. Unfortunately, this lady had the $10,000 prize with her. They restarted the round with a different puzzle. This time, when it counted, the lady did not get the $10,000 prize. Trying to spin the Wheel lightly (like Alberto did on the first permanent hour-long show on "The Price is Right") is what the book referred to as "beating the house." When only vowels remain, and all three contestants are unable to buy any vowels or solve the puzzle correctly, the round is restarted. I think this is when the locked-out exists where a contestant fails to solve the puzzle, he/she will not only lose his/her turn, but be locked out for the rest of the round. A contestant is allowed to start a round by solving the puzzle, something I hope to do one day when I get on the show. To solve a puzzle correctly, the exact answer, as the puzzle appears on the board must be given. Pronunciation of a puzzle will be judged correct if letters have not been added or omitted. This is why I agree with the judges who ruled SEVEN SWANS A SWIMMIN' incorrect. It's the show's rules. If the contestant mispronounces the contestant of the puzzle, it will be judged incorrect if it's obvious the player did not know the puzzle. Picture-skay from last season is an example. Here's a good one. What if an audience member yells out an answer? The round will restart. Although the book doesn't say what will happen to the audience member, I'll bet he/she is escorted out of the studio. Another interesting rule. When Pat asks, "What is this... ?" The player can start with, "It's a... [puzzle answer]." A tie with time running out would result in no bonus round and all three contestants coming back the next day. If an incorrect guess is inadvertently accepted, the two other contestants would get $200 gift certificates.
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Post by gameshowguy2000 on Jun 1, 2013 16:45:08 GMT -5
So even the G in Swimming need to be pronounced, so to speak.
If it were say, a Jeopardy! clue like, "In 'The 12 Days of Christmas, it's what the seven swans are doing." and the correct response is "What is 'a-swimmin'?", the judges would have to count that wrong?
(From what I know, they don't penalize on misspelled responses unless it affects pronunciation; case in point that 'Bejamin Franklin' response from Back to School Week 2005, I can understand that, as that first N was omitted and the young lady was rightfully penalized)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2013 18:59:03 GMT -5
The judges would probably accept that, considering that both have the same meaning. On Wheel, though, you have to read the puzzleboard like it is. Every letter counts.
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Post by germanname1990 on Jun 1, 2013 21:35:39 GMT -5
Indeed. That's what Chuck Woolery said decades ago when he hosted the show. When that infamous Christmas puzzle aired, one of the the first things that went through my mind was Chuck's quote, "Remember, when you solve the puzzle, you have to solve it the way it would be revealed on the puzzle board."
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Post by gameshowguy2000 on Jun 2, 2013 1:18:19 GMT -5
I hear you guys. From what I've seen on several YouTube videos about this so-called "debacle", a lot of comments were saying that the lady was robbed, and this was "rigged" (apparently, those people have forgotten that rigging game shows is illegal).
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Post by WarioSajak on Jun 2, 2013 9:33:49 GMT -5
To solve a puzzle correctly, the exact answer, as the puzzle appears on the board must be given. Pronunciation of a puzzle will be judged correct if letters have not been added or omitted. This is why I agree with the judges who ruled SEVEN SWANS A SWIMMIN' incorrect. It's the show's rules. The judges would probably accept that, considering that both have the same meaning. On Wheel, though, you have to read the puzzleboard like it is. Every letter counts. HICKORY-SMOKE(D) COUNTRY HAM would like to have a word with the both of you.
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