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Post by rory on Aug 3, 2013 1:18:02 GMT -5
Ok folks, I just got approval from Mario to post these:
First, to Wario: The "Valentine's Day" shows are not sponsored by Sandals. Just regular shows, regular prizes.
First thing first so I can get it out of the way before I forget: During the show set to air on February 14th, the Prize Puzzle and the Express wedge were in R2. Also, the letters of Express and the numbers are yellow, and three white streaks go diagonally upward from left to right under "Express," and light up accordingly. All three streaks under "Express" seem to light-streak across at the same time.
Next, the director:
I talked to three people: A guy at the Meet & Greet check-in desk who works for the show, near the doors of Hall A at Sands Expo Convention Center, the guy who seated us who also works for the show, and a PA who was standing next to John Lauderdale (John was talking to someone else and she was available), after the second and last taping for the day was complete.
According to the PA, Mark Corwin completed the July 11th and 12th tapings before he died. So there was nothing left hanging in Culver City before the production left for Las Vegas.
Kevin McCarthy from "Jeopardy!" is directing the Las Vegas shows. I guess Harry Friedman gave him a call and asked him to fill in.
There is no word on what's going to happen when they get back, who is chosen for the permanent position, any of that. I asked if either associate director Bob Cisneros or associate director L. David Irete would be elevated, and they said they didn't know. It's something they'll figure out when they get back. From the tenor of the answer, it sounds like it's going to take a little while. The guy at the Meet & Greet desk told me flat out that he was amazed I knew that, and I said I'm a fan of the show and keep up on this and also let him know about the obits for Mark Corwin all over the Internet. I read them all.
Next: On "Same Name," they're using an ampersand.
The Final Spin graphic is the same.
There was nothing from Jim Thornton during these tapings about the 6,000th show or possible future Wheel of Fortune road dates. Until tonight, I had no idea that Jim was the narrator of the "Monsters, Inc." commercial during the first movie, or that he was the later voice of Johnny Gomez on Celebrity Deathmatch, from 2006-2007. I preferred Celebrity Deathmatch when it aired from 1998 on. The later episodes aren't as good.
No Spin IDs were drawn during the tapings.
Neither of the monitors on the sides had the wheel all the time. It was just like when you watch the show on TV. Plus, where we were sitting, in the handicap-accessible section, owing to my Mom's disability, we couldn't see much, which is why we're only going to the first three shows tomorrow and then spending the rest of the day doing what else we want to do, including me going to Bauman Rare Books at the Palazzo to see the "Before They Were Movies" book exhibit.
Also, the Spin & Win wheel for the bonus round is different this year. It's darkish blue all around as it spins, almost as if someone forgot to turn on the juice. Then after one of the envelopes is chosen, that wedge lights up in a lighter blue.
And if the second show was a "Get me the hell out of here for the night!" rush show for Pat and Vanna and the crew (Neither Pat nor Vanna nor Jim spoke to the audience toward the end of the second show or after it was over), I can only imagine what the final Las Vegas taping in the early evening tomorrow will be like. Everyone on stage and operating the cameras was ready to be done for the night, except for the staff and crew photo that was taken after that taping was completed.
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Post by WarioSajak on Aug 3, 2013 2:40:06 GMT -5
The "Valentine's Day" shows are not sponsored by Sandals. I was kinda joking when I mentioned Sandals, but still good to know. During the show set to air on February 14th, the Prize Puzzle and the Express wedge were in R2. Round 2? That's...weird. Were the Mystery Wedges there as well? Based on your post, it seems you saw two episodes. Which round was the Express and Trip Puzzle in on the other show? Kevin McCarthy from "Jeopardy!" is directing the Las Vegas shows. I guess Harry Friedman gave him a call and asked him to fill in. There is no word on what's going to happen when they get back, who is chosen for the permanent position, any of that. I asked if either associate director Bob Cisneros or associate director L. David Irete would be elevated, and they said they didn't know. It's something they'll figure out when they get back. From the tenor of the answer, it sounds like it's going to take a little while. Not surprising, really. And good to know about who's directing the Vegas shows. I had no idea that Jim was [...] the later voice of Johnny Gomez on Celebrity Deathmatch, from 2006-2007. I didn't know that, either. Also, the Spin & Win wheel for the bonus round is different this year. "Spin & Win"? Is that what they're calling the Bonus Wheel now? And if the second show was a "Get me the hell out of here for the night!" rush show for Pat and Vanna and the crew (Neither Pat nor Vanna nor Jim spoke to the audience toward the end of the second show or after it was over), I can only imagine what the final Las Vegas taping in the early evening tomorrow will be like. Everyone on stage and operating the cameras was ready to be done for the night, except for the staff and crew photo that was taken after that taping was completed. The current Wheel may be many things, but I've never found them to be a "Get me the hell out of here for the night!" sort. Did the taping session run severely overtime or something?
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Post by rory on Aug 3, 2013 2:49:47 GMT -5
The "Valentine's Day" shows are not sponsored by Sandals. Just regular shows, regular prizes. Good to know. First thing first so I can get it out of the way before I forget: During the show set to air on February 14th, the Prize Puzzle and the Express wedge were in R2. Round 2? That's...weird. Were the Mystery Wedges there as well? From your post, it seems you saw two episodes. Was the Express and Trip Puzzle in Round 3 on that show? Next, the director: [...] Kevin McCarthy from "Jeopardy!" is directing the Las Vegas shows. I guess Harry Friedman gave him a call and asked him to fill in. There is no word on what's going to happen when they get back, who is chosen for the permanent position, any of that. I asked if either associate director Bob Cisneros or associate director L. David Irete would be elevated, and they said they didn't know. It's something they'll figure out when they get back. From the tenor of the answer, it sounds like it's going to take a little while. Not surprising, really. And good to know about who's directing the Vegas shows. Until tonight, I had no idea that Jim was [...] the later voice of Johnny Gomez on Celebrity Deathmatch, from 2006-2007. I didn't know that, either. Also, the Spin & Win wheel for the bonus round is different this year. It's darkish blue all around as it spins, almost as if someone forgot to turn on the juice. Then after one of the envelopes is chosen, that wedge lights up in a lighter blue. "Spin & Win"? Is that what they're calling the Bonus Wheel now? And if the second show was a "Get me the hell out of here for the night!" rush show for Pat and Vanna and the crew (Neither Pat nor Vanna nor Jim spoke to the audience toward the end of the second show or after it was over), I can only imagine what the final Las Vegas taping in the early evening tomorrow will be like. Everyone on stage and operating the cameras was ready to be done for the night, except for the staff and crew photo that was taken after that taping was completed. The current Wheel may be many things, but I've never found them to be a "Get me the hell out of here for the night!" sort. Did the taping session run severely overtime or something? Which show? The February 14th show? The Express wedge and the Prize Puzzle were both in R2. The previous show, airing on February 13, the Prize Puzzle was in R3 and Express was in R2. Sorry, Wario. I don't know why I called it that. It's still the Bonus Wheel, but I went by that because of that on the wheel. It wasn't running severely overtime, but they were ready to leave for the night. Really ready. They taped very quickly. I could tell they were ready to go, not least because it was after 9 p.m. All Sajak did at the end was a quick goodbye and thank you from far into the stage, and that was it. The Mystery Wedges are still around.
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Post by WarioSajak on Aug 3, 2013 2:56:19 GMT -5
Which show? The February 14th show? The Express wedge and the Prize Puzzle were both in R2. The previous show, airing on February 13, the Prize Puzzle was in R3 and Express was in R2. That's...even weirder. What, are they testing out new configurations on the fly? Sorry, Wario. I don't know why I called it that. It's still the Bonus Wheel, but I went by that because of that on the wheel. It's alright. I thought "Spin & Win" was the show's (new) official name for the thing. The Mystery Wedges are still around. Sorry, I should've phrased my question differently: during the two episodes you saw, which round had the Mystery Wedges?
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Post by rory on Aug 3, 2013 2:59:22 GMT -5
Which show? The February 14th show? The Express wedge and the Prize Puzzle were both in R2. The previous show, airing on February 13, the Prize Puzzle was in R3 and Express was in R2. That's...even weirder. What, are they testing out new configurations on the fly? The Mystery Wedges are still around. Sorry, I should've phrased my question differently: during the two episodes you saw, which round had the Mystery Wedges? The February 13th show had it in R2, and the Valentine's Day show had it in R1. I'm going to at least the first three shows tomorrow afternoon (my mom said that we'll see how we all are after those three, if we want to stay for the final two, since our seats will suck again), so I'll see what the arrangement is for "Taste of the Good Life." My guess is that they want to see what new configurations may work best and it seems they want to do it on the fly to see how it plays. To me, it seems a little disorganized because wouldn't it be best to have a consistent season? It would be like "Jeopardy!" mixing up the Jeopardy and Double Jeopardy dollar values in the first round, and then using the Jeopardy dollar values in Double Jeopardy just to see how it plays.
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Post by WarioSajak on Aug 3, 2013 3:10:57 GMT -5
The February 13th show had [the Mystery Wedges] in R2, and the Valentine's Day show had it in R1. That's even weirder. (It's also the first time Mystery has been in R1, so...yay?) It seems they're adamant about having one normal, featureless round among the first three...but at least they tried splitting Express and the Trip Puzzle, I'll give them that much.
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Post by rory on Aug 3, 2013 3:12:58 GMT -5
I hope someone hits Express during one of my three shows today. I also wonder what the configuration is going to be this time.
Edited to remove indirect, minor spoilers about February 13-14
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Post by WarioSajak on Aug 3, 2013 3:17:41 GMT -5
My guess is that they want to see what new configurations may work best and it seems they want to do it on the fly to see how it plays. To me, it seems a little disorganized because wouldn't it be best to have a consistent season? The same kind of thing happened in Season 29 when they changed the round structure from Jackpot/Normal (but may be Trip Puzzle)/Mystery (may also be Trip Puzzle) to Jackpot/Mystery/Trip Puzzle partway through the season, but due to the taping schedule some episodes with the "old" structure aired after the change.
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Post by rory on Aug 3, 2013 3:23:23 GMT -5
It seems they're adamant about having one normal, featureless round among the first three now...but at least they tried splitting Express and the Trip Puzzle, I'll give them that much. It was interesting seeing that change so rapidly from one show to the next. Do you think they'll settle on a configuration for the rest of the season or keep switching it around in each show?
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Post by WarioSajak on Aug 3, 2013 3:32:49 GMT -5
No clue whatsoever. We know the Express and Trip Puzzle were in Round 3 for at least the first Corwin-directed week of this season, though.
I honestly hope they go back to each round having one specific element, mainly because 1) it simply works the best and 2) if they're going to keep swapping stuff from episode to episode it's going to wreak havoc on the timeline...but you never can tell with this braintrust.
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Post by MarioGS on Aug 3, 2013 11:35:08 GMT -5
Which show? The February 14th show? The Express wedge and the Prize Puzzle were both in R2. The previous show, airing on February 13, the Prize Puzzle was in R3 and Express was in R2. The February 13th show had [the Mystery Wedges] in R2, and the Valentine's Day show had it in R1. Wait a minute...so 2/13 went Normal/Mystery+Express/PP? If Express and Mystery were in the same round, then that would mean two $1000s right next to each other unless one of the Mystery Wedges moved... :huh:
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Post by rory on Aug 3, 2013 11:35:46 GMT -5
This is really confusing, at the moment... Wheel of Fortune imitates life. We're off to the first three tapings of "Taste of the Good Life." We'll see after the three if we want to stay for the final two, since our seating is likely to be the same as last night. My mom couldn't see over the camera crane.
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Post by MarioGS on Aug 3, 2013 11:38:39 GMT -5
OK. Pay close attention to the round structure each show, and see at which point before R4 (if any) the Prize Wedge is removed.
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Post by rory on Aug 3, 2013 11:41:43 GMT -5
OK. Pay close attention to the round structure each show, and see at which point before R4 (if any) the Prize Wedge is removed. I'm especially paying close attention to the former to see if there's consistency this run. If there is, I'm going to flag down one of the PAs after the taping and exclaim, "What happened to the rebels I saw last night?!" And I'll see when they pry the Prize Wedge.
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Post by MarioGS on Aug 3, 2013 11:49:10 GMT -5
Do you remember Express and a Mystery Wedge being right next to each other on 2/13 in R2?
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Post by rory on Aug 4, 2013 2:48:30 GMT -5
That's outstanding, Mario! That is so close, you can almost taste it. Tastes like money, as long as the consonants and vowels are correct. I want to pick your brain about fonts some time, my friend. There's a lot I've been curious about regarding fonts.
This would be the time to talk about "Taste of the Good Life," the first three shows that we saw (we didn't stay for the final two since we were moved all around (audience exodus after the first taping, and then the audience became still smaller by the third show), from the top left of the bleachers in the middle, to the bottom row of the bleachers to the left of those bleachers, to four rows from the stage for the third and final taping of our session. We were already tired and we would have had to get right back in line since we had tickets for the final two, and we hadn't eaten anything since that morning).
All three games were uniform: Plain Jane R1, Mystery in R2, Prize Puzzle and Express in R3, and then plain again in R4+.
There were two stopdowns during the second episode (February 18, 2014 airdate): One contestant was trying to solve one of the puzzles early on, and they weren't sure if they heard correctly. Then during the Bonus Round, the contestant called a letter, Pat thought he heard another letter, and the judges' table wasn't sure either. Both stopdowns took about 5 minutes.
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Post by WarioSajak on Aug 4, 2013 14:48:52 GMT -5
All three games were uniform: Plain Jane R1, Mystery in R2, Prize Puzzle and Express in R3, and then plain again in R4+. I'd just like to say that while this is the norm used when the season began taping, I still don't like using the contestants as guinea pigs for format changes...especially if it turns out only the Thursday-Friday shows have it being altered. This reminds me of when the 1970s Liars Club forced each contestant to pick a different panelist, giving them different odds (2:1 choosing from all four celebs, 5:1 choosing from three, 10:1 choosing from two, and 20:1 with whoever remained). It just didn't work, even with each player getting each set of odds, and it was pretty clearly skewed against them (partly since if you knew a particular celeb's explanation was the right one, but someone already bet on him/her, you were screwed).
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Post by MarioGS on Aug 4, 2013 14:52:38 GMT -5
Rory clarified with me in a PM that only the 2/14 show had a different round structure (Mystery/PP+Express/Normal), but he doesn't know why. If only we could hear from a contestant from that show, but I can't find any.
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Post by WarioSajak on Aug 4, 2013 14:59:15 GMT -5
...That's odd. Rory stated that The February 14th show? The Express wedge and the Prize Puzzle were both in R2. The previous show, airing on February 13, the Prize Puzzle was in R3 and Express was in R2. It's possible that he misspoke, but...
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Post by rory on Aug 4, 2013 15:03:49 GMT -5
Two shows are easier to sit through and remember if there are such format changes, so that's indeed what it was, as stated.
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