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Post by mechamind on Jan 30, 2014 0:01:38 GMT -5
Looking through some of the comments on one of the first-run recaps, a few mentioned that it might be a good idea for Canada to get its own version. But there are some challenges to this: - A significantly lower prize budget. When the American one can afford to give away $10 million per year, a Canadian one would probably be limited to $2 million per year.
- You can't get away with an obviously low-budget game show in Canada (unless the American version is also low-budget). The Wheel would need to offer almost as much, top-dollar value aside.
- You'd need to change the structure of the game in order to be able to comply with both.
To satisfy criterion 2, here is the Wheel that I thought of that might work: | Bare | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | | $300 | $300 | $300 | $300 | $300 | | $650 | $150 | $150 | $650 | $650 | | $800 | $100 | $800 | $800 | $800 | | $400 | $400 | $400 | Prize 2 | $400 | | $250 | $250 | $250 | $250 | $250 | | LOSE A TURN | LOSE A TURN | LOSE A TURN | LOSE A TURN | LOSE A TURN | | $500 | $500 | $500 | $500 | $500 | | $800 | $200 | $200 | $200 | $800 | | $350 | $350 | $350 | $350 | $350 | | $700 | $100 | $700 | $700 | $700 | | $900 | $200 | $200 | $200 | $900 | | BANKRUPT | FREE SPIN | BANKRUPT | BANKRUPT | BANKRUPT | | $500 | $500 | $500 | $500 | $500 | | $600 | $150 | $150 | $600 | $600 | | $300 | BONUS! | BONUS! | BONUS! | $300 | | $900 | $100 | $900 | $900 | $900 | | $450 | $450 | $450 | $450 | $450 | | LOSE A TURN | $150 | $150 | LOSE A TURN | LOSE A TURN | | $600 | $600 | $600 | $600 | $600 | | $400 | $400 | Prize 1 | Prize 1 | $400 | | $550 | $100 | $550 | $550 | $550 | | $700 | $200 | $200 | $200 | $700 | | (blank) | $750 | $1,000 | $1,500 | $2,000 | | BANKRUPT | BANKRUPT | BANKRUPT | BANKRUPT | BANKRUPT |
(The regular dollar values are a little brighter than those on the American version, although BANKRUPT remains pitch black. The top-dollar value is illuminated in red with interchanging brightness and hue, similar to the Free Play and Express wedges, although it is not raised above the Wheel.) To satisfy criterion 3, the following applies: - There is one Toss-Up before Round 1, although it has no cash value.
- The Wheel prizes are more "practical" in the $1,000-$5,000 range.
- There is no Prize Puzzle.
- Access to the Bonus Round is only gained by a contestant who calls a correct letter on the BONUS! space and immediately solves the puzzle (I still miss the Jackpot wedge). If gained (or after Round 3), it is removed from the Wheel. Like the early Star Bonus, the contestant does not have to win the main game, and the privilege is safe from BANKRUPT.
- In the Bonus Round, the contestant is allowed to pick their prize (from the $5,000-$50,000 range), which determines the difficulty of the bonus puzzle.
As extras: - The single template system is inverted. The Wheel starts with lower dollar values in Round 1; all $100s are removed after Round 1, all $150s after Round 2, and all $200s after Round 3.
- The game allows returning champions. Anyone who exceeds the $100,000 mark after winning their latest game retires undefeated.
- "Null" cycles are left intact.
- "Bonus" categories are revived (at $500), although this bonus does not count towards score, and the cash is given directly to the contestant like the perfect bid bonus in The Price is Right.
- The Speed-Up is only done if necessary, played for the exact value of the Final Spin per consonant, and "bad" spins are left intact unless they cause the show to run overtime.
- For a bonus puzzle, the contestant is prompted for five-and-a-vowel, after which they are given 10 seconds to solve, with unlimited guesses.
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Post by germanname1990 on Jan 30, 2014 1:14:23 GMT -5
Worth trying. Now I wanted to make sure you placed the dollar sign in the right position since "La Roue Chanceuse" placed their dollar sign after the number. I learned in many non-English speaking countries (Mexico being an exception with their peso), the currency symbol is placed after the number. In Canada, those who speak French place the dollar sign after the number while those who speak English place it before the number.
So, anyway, your placement of the dollar sign is correct. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 8:26:36 GMT -5
Geez, this format makes us sound poor!  We definitely can support a game show such as WOF, but it will need to be backed by another company willing to help out with the production costs. If I was in charge of bringing WOF to Toronto, I would have OLG financially support the series & sponsor it. CBC wouldn't be stable of doing WOF (despite being able to do DOND back in 2007). CTV could possibly do it. Match Game is done here in Toronto, and that seems to be going well, but it doesn't have enough hype to make it a big show, which would be the problem with getting WOF into the spotlight (although that may be because it is picked up by Comedy Central). We honestly do need a major nationwide game show, but no one wants to take a chance on something that may not be successful enough to bring in the numbers. |
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Post by nowhammies11 on Jan 30, 2014 8:56:29 GMT -5
Geez, this format makes us sound poor! We definitely can support a game show such as WOF, but it will need to be backed by another company willing to help out with the production costs. If I was in charge of bringing WOF to Toronto, I would have OLG financially support the series & sponsor it. CBC wouldn't be stable of doing WOF (despite being able to do DOND back in 2007). CTV could possibly do it. Match Game is done here in Toronto, and that seems to be going well, but it doesn't have enough hype to make it a big show, which would be the problem with getting WOF into the spotlight (although that may be because it is picked up by Comedy Central). We honestly do need a major nationwide game show, but no one wants to take a chance on something that may not be successful enough to bring in the numbers. FTR, while it was taped at the CBC, Deal Canada aired on Global. CTV could produce the show, except that CHCH has the rights to the American show. I think they would be better suited to doing a new version of Wheel. I don't like the Bonus! wedge. Offer the BR to everyone but reduce the prize structure, perhaps by a factor of 5 (i.e. BR prizes go from $6,000-$20,000). |
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Post by mechamind on Jan 30, 2014 9:52:53 GMT -5
^ But then the less expensive high-end bonus prizes would violate rule #2.
Again, part of the challenge of making a Canadian version.
As for which stations would air it, the show would not survive where it is; I don't even know if Alberta has access to a Canadian channel that airs it! The show would have to air on one of the big three to stand a chance (or if CityTV was actually available in rural areas, then that would add a fourth possibility).
One more thing: A Canadian version would have to make the choice between the Mike Richards approach or the "daytime Wheel on CBS" approach. I was looking towards the former.
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Post by rtngs63 on Feb 8, 2014 13:00:01 GMT -5
Like the wheel set up. Only change I'd make, just for old time's sake, is to add $25 to one of the $150 spaces.  |
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Post by mechamind on Feb 8, 2014 18:23:22 GMT -5
You could consider a $0 or a $50 space, since all the values are multiples of 50. But you would likely have to wait for the American version to adopt a similar reverse template system (albeit with higher values, probably doubled). Of course, if the American version does it, it's possible they wouldn't need the +$1000 Final Spin rule anymore.
Actually, I could also think of an American equivalent of my Wheel, although it would not include the 1/2 Car tags, the BONUS! would be replaced with my (TRIP?) wedge, and FREE SPIN would be placed on a cash wedge instead of a BANKRUPT (as the MDW still needs a spot).
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