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Post by greenday61892 on Jun 3, 2014 15:25:46 GMT -5
I was thinking of this while watching Battle of the Decades (and also MAY have posted this here in a different thread in the past but not too sure), but what if Wheel of Fortune did a tournament, whether it be Jeopardy!-style or just its own format? I would probably go with a Jeopardy!-style Tournament of Champions, with the top 15 winners of the season coming back at the end of the season. Like Jeopardy!, the first week would be five quarterfinals games with all five winners and four highest-scoring losers coming back for the semis, with week 2 being the three semifinal matches followed by the typical 2-day aggregate-score finals. Some details might have be tweaked such as not having the MDW/$100k available until the finals so that there isn't the possibility, though incredibly small, for one person to win the top prize multiple times. I would also omit the bonus round on the first day of the finals just because it wouldn't be all that fair if they win and near impossible to catch up on the 2nd day. The biggest downside I could see to qualifying for the tournament is that unlike Jeopardy!, the prizes' values are not consistent throughout the season so your ease of qualifying would be easier depending on when you were competing. What do you guys think and what would you guys do if you had the power to create a tournament for Wheel of Fortune?
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Post by WooWho on Jun 3, 2014 16:04:18 GMT -5
I think if you're going to do a tournament, do it with the Friday Finals format. Remember when they used to do those? Bring back 12 players (4 shows' worth), top three scores play on Friday.
For the games themselves, make any cardboard cash bonuses--$5,000 for the wedge, $1,000 for the gift tag. The 1/2 Car tags could be interesting, repurposing them as, say, two halves of a $10,000 check or something. We dispense with the Million Dollar Wedge and the Prize Puzzle for these shows, for qualifying purposes.
The winner still plays the bonus round, but whatever they win there does not count toward the score that needs to be beaten to play on Friday. Whatever is spun in the bonus round, regardless of whether or not it is won, is added to a jackpot that starts at $30,000. So even if all four bonus rounds are played for $30,000, the pot will still be at $150,000 going into Friday.
If there are ties to advance to the finals, first preference is given to the player that won their game. If both players won their game, the number of puzzles solved serves as the tiebreaker. If that number is also tied, the player with the greater margin of victory will play. Should that number be tied as well, a play-in toss-up tiebreaker will be played instead of the $1,000 Toss-up on Friday. (Hey, gotta cover all your bases somehow!)
The Friday Final game acts as a regular game of Wheel--Prize Puzzle and all--except the Million Dollar Wedge could be replaced with a $20,000 oreo wedge.
The Bonus Wheel will only be loaded with $50,000 (12), $100,000 (9), two JACKPOT envelopes (which awards the total spun during the previous four bonus rounds plus $30K), and $1,000,000 (1).
Thoughts?
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Post by greenday61892 on Jun 3, 2014 16:11:57 GMT -5
I like that a lot as well! One question though regarding the jackpot: since it's added regardless of win or loss, that means it's theoretically possible for someone to win what they won in the bonus round AND the jackpot, right? Also, is the bonus round loaded with the normal distributions Monday-Thursday?
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Post by WooWho on Jun 3, 2014 16:17:19 GMT -5
Yes, but I only did it that way so that the two Jackpot envelopes would be worth more than $100K no matter what. The normal distributions are in play for Monday-Thursday, then the special one kicks in for Friday.
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Post by StrangerCoug on Jun 3, 2014 17:59:58 GMT -5
When I did a Wheel of Fortune tournament on another site, I did three games with the 1985 daytime layouts and had the winners of those advance to a finals match with the nighttime layouts from the same year. Granted, four doesn't exactly work on a daily show and we have only the nighttime show now, but something loosely based on that idea wouldn't be too bad.
I've toyed with making tournaments work similarly to the way Jeopardy normally does tournaments while writing this post, but you'd have to take out the bonus round from the first day of the finals for it to make much sense. That seems a bit off.
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Post by greenday61892 on Jun 3, 2014 18:28:40 GMT -5
Right, and I had pointed that out too, but Josh makes a great point too that you can have the bonus round without the winnings from that counting towards the 2-day total. That OR it just allows you to have a couple extra maingame rounds since they can go to :25 or :55 (depending on your syndicate) instead of like :18/:19 or :48/:49.
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Post by MarioGS on Jun 3, 2014 22:15:41 GMT -5
I would do sort of a "Big Money Tournament" to end each season. The top 12 winners would play, and they would be grouped in order of when they appeared in the season for Monday-Thursday. Those four episodes would be played like any other episode, but with the following differences: - No Prize Puzzle - No 1/2 Car - Vowels cost double - A second Prize Wedge replaces the Gift Tag - Jackpot returns for Round 1 - Double Play returns and goes over the green $500 next to $450 - $5000 is added in Round 3 instead of 4 The Friday episode would be like Friday Finals: the top 3 scorers from Monday-Thursday play against each other one last time. Format is the same as above with the following additions: - Jackpot starts at $10,000 - Mystery prize is $15,000 - When a new top value is added, the previous ones remain on the Wheel; For Rounds 2+, $2500 replaces the blue $350, and for Rounds 3+, $3500 replaces the red $800 - The $1 million is automatically in the Bonus Wheel, so the MDW is replaced with a special Bankrupt/$25000/Bankrupt wedge (Double Play wouldn't work on it) I know this is crazy, but that's how I would do it. Make the season go out with a bang with lots of big money.  |
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Post by stratonascar on Jun 5, 2014 16:20:50 GMT -5
And I Have a Feeling that we can invite some who won $100,000 or $1 Million to play in the Tournament at the End of the Season along with some wildcards in which they don't win the Top Prizes in the Bonus Round.
Prizes' Edit: And I Have A Feeling That We Won't See Much More Of Your Posts If You Continue Silly Posts Like This One That Capitalize Random Words And Make Very Little Or No Sense. Shape It Up, Or You Will Be Gone.
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Post by thiswheel13 on Jun 5, 2014 16:32:44 GMT -5
I have two ideas for tournaments. One I have tucked away in my back pocket the other is just kind of a blend of what I've read above. Reading through this what if they did some sort of charity Xmas tournament and bring back the shows biggest winners. Obviously anyone who has won the $100K or $1M in the bonus round and then some of the bigger three day winners, especially if they amassed more than $100K. The contestants get to choose their charity/charities and then have a home viewer win whatever the players win. I guess you wouldn't necessarily have to make it into a tournament but call it something like "The Champs & Charities Tournament" or "The Champs & Charities Sweepstakes" I mean Ken & Brad have been on Jeopardy! about 2700 times now so why can't Wheel bring back some former winners back from the grave.
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Post by karenintucson on Jul 11, 2014 0:00:09 GMT -5
Bring back the top 27 winners of season 31. Nine games, nine winners. Semi-finals with three games gives us three winners to face off in the final game. 13 days of wheel tournament mania! Winner plays the bonus round with only two envelopes, $100K and $1 million. I finished 27th this season... a girl can dream right? |
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Post by WheelFan96 on Aug 4, 2014 21:22:56 GMT -5
I would do it in the style of Jeopardy. The 5 winners and 4 highest scorers of non winners. However, I would make the following changes.
In the quarterfinals and semifinals, everything would be worth points instead of dollars. The Prize wedge, Gift tag, Million Dollar wedge, and 1/2 car would not be used. The Wild card would still be used. The Mystery round and Express round would still be used. The Prize Puzzle would not be used. Players do not keep their earnings from the quarterfinals and semifinals as the winners simply advance to the next stage. Their would be no bonus round in the quarterfinals and semifinals.
Losers in the quarterfinals receive $1000. Losers in the semifinals receive $5000.
In the 2 day finals, everything is reinstated except for the Million Dollar wedge. 3rd place receives $10000 and 2nd place receives $25000; however, contestants would receive more if they earn more.
Their is no bonus round on the first day of the finals. The winner of the tournament will play the bonus round on the final day for $1 Million. If they don't solve the bonus round puzzle, the winner will receive $75000; however, the contestant would receive more if they earn more.
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Post by lousan92 on Aug 5, 2014 9:25:18 GMT -5
Well, I would do it in the following way:
The tournament would take eight weeks. During Monday-Thursday, the rules are the same that in the normal show, but without Prize Puzzle. And after that, the three players who had won more money would play the semifinals, where:
- The Wheel values range between $500 and $2,000 ($500, $550, $600, $650, $700, $750, $800, $850, $900, $950, $1,000, $1,250, $1,500 and $2,000).
- Vowels cost $500.
- The top value is $3,500 in R1, $5,000 in R2 and R3 and $6,000 in R4 and beyond, and a multipliable Bankrupt/$10,000/Bankrupt is added to the Wheel where the MDW is placed.
- A Prize Puzzle is played in any round between R1 and R3 with a prize worth $10,000-$15,000.
- R1 would be the Jackpot Round, with the Jackpot starting at $10,000, R2 would be the Mystery Round with a $20,000 prize and R3 would be the Express Round with consonants worth $2,000 in the Express Wedge.
- The Gift Tag is replaced with the Premium Star, which doubles the winnings after solving the puzzle (if you solve a puzzle with $1,500, you will earn $3,000. It only affects cash won with the Wheel: it doesn't affect Jackpot or prizes. If you solve for less than $500, you will earn the house minimum, since $400 X 2 = $800, for example).
- $60,000, $70,000, $80,000, $90,000 and $150,000 envelopes are added to the Bonus Wheel.
The finals would be played by the three most-winning players in the semifinals (only counting money won in semifinals, without adding previous winnings), and the format is the same that in semifinals but with a maximum prize of $500,000 in the BR.
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Post by pannoni1 on Aug 6, 2014 12:15:22 GMT -5
For a season-ending tournament, I'd do a J!-style tournament could fit in since I feel a Friday Finals tournament would be too short and unfair since you could win, perhaps even win the bonus round, and not advance forward. The house minimums would be as follows: $2,500 for the quarterfinals, $5,000 for the semis, a minimum of 10,000 for third place, $25,000 for second place, and $100,000 for the winner. The quarterfinal and semi-final rounds will work out just like a normal show, with a Bonus Round for the winner (still with the MDW/$100K given how unlikely those are to be given away, plus you'd automatically advance. Just make harder puzzles based on budget.) The finals will be different though. Also, I would only use the Prize Puzzle for the Semi-finals and Finals. 1/2 Cars aren't a problem provided its the same car for the first week. I would make sure that the regular prizes aren't more than $1000 from each other. The biggest change I'd propose is a special Round 4 wheel that would continue up through when the Bonus Round would normally be played. Because of the higher guarantees for the final rounds, I'd switch out the following spaces on the current wheel:
$3500 for one $900
$2500 for another $900
$2000 for one $800
$1500 for one $700
$1250 for one $600
$1000 for one $500
$750 for another $500
That way it would seem like a "class reunion" for all the top dollar value spaces on the Wheel!
Other changes:
-Vowels: $500 in the quarterfinals/semifinals, $1000 in the finals
-Tossups: Standard in the quarterfinals/semifinals, $1000/$2500/$5000 in the finals
-Mystery is $20,000 in the finals
-Prize in the Puzzle is a new car in the finals
-Express is $2000 a letter in the finals
-A multipliable Bankrupt/$10,000/Bankrupt throughout, including R4+
-No bonus round for the finals since I feel that a downer ending to a tournament just doesn't make sense, elevated Wheel values on the finals provides more excitement.
I wouldn't comprise any others since I feel that enough people want to get on the show, including myself!
If a Battle of the Decades occurs, it then expands to a five-week tournament, and the opening three weeks will be more or less theme weeks pertraining to each decade, but with the set inspired by each era of the shows history ('80s: sunbursts, turntables, perhaps even a serif font for the letters on the puzzleboard; '90s: the W-style backdrops, video walls with black lines separating them; '00s: can't think of much at this moment). Aftewards the tournament picks up as described above.
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Post by lousan92 on Aug 6, 2014 15:12:56 GMT -5
I forgot to say it: Toss-Ups would be worth $1,000/$3,000/$5,000 |
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Post by zjwheeler on Aug 21, 2014 9:44:33 GMT -5
What about this in terms of rounds:
Preliminary Rounds (30 days)
I agree with the 27-player style tournament, although maybe extend it with 30 players (divisible by 5 and 3) with the 27 best performing winners advance.
Quaterfinals (9 day regular, 1 day bonus)
We would have 9 Quarterfinal days, then have probably one special Bonus Day (probably the last day) for 3 of those who had high scores on the Quarter Finals but didn't win for a special day, like a bonus round for them to end the 2 weeks of QF competition with a "breather" round before the Semis.
Semifinals & Finals Week (4 days regular, 1 day bonus)
The 9 winning Quarterfinalists would play in 3 different semifinals. Each winner of the Semis would advance to the Final. However, at Thursday, there would be another "breather" bonus day were the three best losers of the Semis would play for a bonus. The Finals would have the 3 play big and have the Final Wheel have triple the score than usual and also one $1M envelope.
All in all that would be 9 weeks for the tournament.
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