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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 17:02:30 GMT -5
As most of you may know Sony has removed most of the Wheel of Fortune episodes on youtube. I especially don't like to fact that the classic Wheel of Fortune episodes with the old puzzle board got removed since that's the era of Wheel of Fortune I like most. Is there anyone else on this message board who enjoys the Wheel of Fortune episodes with the old puzzle board as much as I do? If so would you please start a petition to GSN for them to start airing the classic Wheel of Fortune episodes with the old puzzle board if you know how to? I don't know how to start a petition but I will sign it once it's complete. If anyone is willing to start to petition and if anyone else likes Wheel of Fortune episodes with the old puzzle board don't be afraid to sign the petition. If you miss the classic Wheel of Fortune episodes with the old puzzle board let's try to voice our opinions to GSN. Who's with me?
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Post by genius2751 on Jul 19, 2014 17:14:15 GMT -5
Welcome to the boards.
I like that era too, but I'm not sure if we're gonna have a petition to GSN. As much as I would like Wheel of Fortune reruns on that network, they are most likely busy with other shows and are probably not gonna air Wheel or Jeopardy! on there for a while.
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Post by MarioGS on Jul 19, 2014 17:15:26 GMT -5
A petition wouldn't do anything. GSN airs what they want. Besides, they're becoming much more modern lately, so if they ever do pick up WOF reruns again, it would most likely be a recent season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 17:30:58 GMT -5
I do realize that GSN is becoming more modern and has been known to air what it wants at times. But what about the fact it still does air classic game shows in the morning and what if there was a petition(the possible one I mentioned above) that received so many signatures that GSN could not ignore?
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Post by genius2751 on Jul 19, 2014 17:38:00 GMT -5
They could still turn the petition down.
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Post by gradyz033 on Jul 19, 2014 20:23:15 GMT -5
Petitions never work.
I'm gonna be honest with you guys about GSN, it's already been forgotten. I understand that GSN wants to be more modern, but their library is getting limited and small now. As much as I want to see Wheel, Jeopardy, and Donny Osmond's Pyramid to be brought back on GSN, but they really don't listen. They don't care. They have kept repeating reruns of Steve Harvey's Family Feud for more than 8 hours a day which is "Favoritism". There is not much variety from the network. GSN will continue to make poor judgements, bad marketing, and false advertisements, because they air shows that are not game show related. They focus more on dating/relationship shows like "Love Triangle", "It Takes a Church", or some random stuff like the upcoming "Skin Wars", it doesn't have a game show feel in it. GSN's main focus is to attract women audience, GSN who are you Lin Bolen?
I don't care what the audience say, or I don't care if they have "The Chase", their overall is already been forgotten. I understand people love Steve Harvey a lot, but for once I just wish they bring in Wheel and Jeopardy to GSN, even if it's from a previous season or two. This will give them some extra boost on their ratings.
GSN has kept repeating their stupid mistakes for a long time, I don't know if I would give them another chance.
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Post by germanname1990 on Jul 20, 2014 0:28:40 GMT -5
GSN has apparently become part of the corporate world. My definition of the current corporate world is that they do whatever they want and do not care about what anyone else has to say. As long as they're happy with what they've got, they could care less about anything else. I took a Russian history course last year, and I'm telling you right now, folks that's pretty much how Stalin and Lenin did things.
And if GSN's excuse is that they don't have the money, get the money! Pay whoever has some Woolery episodes for example, put them on the schedule, and watch even more money come in from every direction! Yeah, GSN, you may be in a bit of debt at first, but you'll be out of it before you know it, but if you want to spin up a Bankrupt, you've done an awfully good job of doing it so far.
In fact, I feel that GSN's going the same way G4 did. Ten years ago, G4 had a lot of good stuff on. In fact, I even dubbed them the video game channel. Look at where they are now - nowhere!
Are you kidding me?! Bankrott, GSN!
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Post by WarioSajak on Jul 20, 2014 6:35:56 GMT -5
See above, in terms of petitions. If you wanna do it, knock yourself out; if you somehow manage to get GSN's attention, I'll gladly eat crow. But right now...? Not likely. And if GSN's excuse is that they don't have the money, get the money! Pay whoever has some Woolery episodes for example, put them on the schedule, and watch even more money come in from every direction! Yeah, GSN, you may be in a bit of debt at first, but you'll be out of it before you know it, Much as I'd also like to see Woolery Wheel on the regular schedule (and Benirschke, and Goen), it's not gonna happen for the simple reason that Pat and Vanna are the faces of Wheel in the eyes of many. Even then, based on what I know about the first decade there's few episodes that are still in broadcast-quality condition, so while it wouldn't be as risky or (possibly) expensive it probably wouldn't make a good return on GSN's investment. Mind you, that still doesn't really explain why they've never shown Sajak daytime episodes between 1985-89 (barring his last), but I really don't know all the details there. but if you want to spin up a Bankrupt, you've done an awfully good job of doing it so far. Are you talking about just Wheel, or GSN's decisions in general? If it's the latter, in fairness to them they've pulled out several surprises for fans of what they once called "decades-old reruns of game shows" in the past year -- they picked up Sale of the Century episodes from the tail end of Perry's NBC run, which had been considered a pipe dream for many since at least the early 2000s. And then they started airing about two-thirds of the first Perry syndicated season. And most of the 180 Finn-era PAX Shop 'Til You Drop episodes. And the first four months of Press Your Luck, from the 1983 premiere to slightly after the earliest episode of the original 2001 lease. To say that there was a flock of flying pigs sighted last year would be an understatement. Sure, GSN constantly going back to reality shows and such despite failing each time they've tried before is annoying, but they've been doing pretty well on the classics front, along with bringing The Chase to the States. As much as I want to see [...] Donny Osmond's Pyramid to be brought back on GSN, but they really don't listen. As of right now, GSN's airing 1980s Pyramid. And personally, I'd take any of the aired versions pre-2002 over the series that got ATGS laughed at by its producer ("You're doing it wrong." "I don't care. I'm doing this show my way.") any day of the week. They have kept repeating reruns of Steve Harvey's Family Feud for more than 8 hours a day which is "Favoritism". I don't disagree that it's favoritism, but in fairness GSN's only going with what does well for them. And, sadly, it's the Feud that's gone for the lowest common denominator since 2011.
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Post by StrangerCoug on Jul 20, 2014 13:09:39 GMT -5
I'm partially with WarioSajak as regards why we won't see Woolery-era Wheel of Fortune on the regular schedule. While I see his point that Pat and Vanna are the faces of Wheel these days, what GSN CAN air plays a factor, too: the reason I wouldn't fault GSN if Wheel pops back up and Pat and Vanna are on is that there are few known Woolery episodes that exist in the first place. Unless we have a hidden vault of Woolery-era Wheel episodes somewhere—such treasure troves have been found for other shows in the past, and there are people that question that the first decade of daytime Wheel has been wiped—we're probably not going to see Woolery hosting Wheel on GSN on any sort of regular basis.
I have my own list of shows/eras I'd like to see on the GSN schedule (either for the first time or brought back), and I have my complaints about what's there (if you like Family Feud so much, then why the hell are you relegating Richard Dawson to Match Game?), but realistically, GSN's more hit-and-miss than the lost cause that gradyz033 makes them out to be.
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Post by djcchs2004 on Jul 20, 2014 23:31:46 GMT -5
I hope that the Network for Games would start airing classic Wheel again, I mean how are we ever going to watch 1980s and 1990s episodes of American's Game when most of them got removed on YT and yet the network still got no plans to rerun it? Last year, they finally owned the rights to aired Sale of the Century and Shop 'til You Drop but they couldn't bring back Wheel? Sony does owned half of the network, so why are they not airing it? I still enjoy some of the shows that it still on (Steve Harvey Feud, The Chase, Baggage) but there some reality shows like It Takes a Church and upcoming Skin Wars I not interest with, I mean the Bible game show did really well for few years but why we need another Christian show. This is GSN, not CBN.
I hoping someday that GSN would bring back Wheel and some other classic shows that network drops, but when is that going to happen? When?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 0:26:02 GMT -5
They have kept repeating reruns of Steve Harvey's Family Feud for more than 8 hours a day which is "Favoritism". I don't disagree that it's favoritism, but in fairness GSN's only going with what does well for them. And, sadly, it's the Feud that's gone for the lowest common denominator since 2011. Going a little off-topic here, but there is a Christian television station here in Canada called CTS. They too air Harvey Feud.
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Post by germanname1990 on Jul 24, 2014 0:05:22 GMT -5
And if GSN's excuse is that they don't have the money, get the money! Pay whoever has some Woolery episodes for example, put them on the schedule, and watch even more money come in from every direction! Yeah, GSN, you may be in a bit of debt at first, but you'll be out of it before you know it. Much as I'd also like to see Woolery Wheel on the regular schedule (and Benirschke, and Goen), it's not gonna happen for the simple reason that Pat and Vanna are the faces of Wheel in the eyes of many. But if you want to spin up a Bankrupt, you've done an awfully good job of doing it so far. Are you talking about just Wheel, or GSN's decisions in general? If it's the latter, in fairness to them they've pulled out several surprises for fans of what they once called "decades-old reruns of game shows" in the past year -- they picked up Sale of the Century episodes from the tail end of Perry's NBC run, which had been considered a pipe dream for many since at least the early 2000s. And then they started airing about two-thirds of the first Perry syndicated season. And most of the 180 Finn-era PAX Shop 'Til You Drop episodes. And the first four months of Press Your Luck, from the 1983 premiere to slightly after the earliest episode of the original 2001 lease. To say that there was a flock of flying pigs sighted last year would be an understatement. Sure, GSN constantly going back to reality shows and such despite failing each time they've tried before is annoying, but they've been doing pretty well on the classics front, along with bringing The Chase to the States. I was indeed talking about GSN's decisions in general. Although I'm glad they brought The Chase from the Kingdom to the States, they could still have some more classic variety. To add to that, even if Pat and Vanna are the faces of Wheel in the eyes of many, I'm pretty certain that that many would still be interested in knowing that Chuck and Susan were the first Pat and Vanna, even if they hadn't seen the THS episode from 2005 or have read or seen any other sources stating such. If I'm right, we're living in a society where we're more than ever before willing to learn even the strangest things. Plus, we have the internet to help us share info with each other. __ TV Announcer: "Think you know everything about Wheel of Fortune? Well, think again. Did you know that Chuck Woolery and Susan Stafford were the first Pat and Vanna and that the show started on January 6, 1975?" Viewer: "No, I never knew that, but that's interesting." TV Announcer: "Did you know Wheel's first pilot was called Shopper's Bazaar and that it did not do well with test audiences?" Viewer: "Oh, no kidding!" TV Announcer: "Did you know that Wheel shouldn't be taken for granted? Believe it or not, the show almost didn't happen in the first place." Viewer: "Really?!" __ And there you go, people!
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Post by WheelFan96 on Jul 31, 2014 15:30:15 GMT -5
I could care less about what GSN does nowadays. They've been doing a lot of things over the last 4-5 years that appears as though they only care about themselves. I still watch GSN some, but nowhere near as much as I used to.
You would think that Sony would want their own shows on their own network, but why they don't air either Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy is beyond me. If they're excuse is that they don't want them to come on GSN at the same time as in syndication, that's ridiculous. Ever since GSN started showing reruns of Steve Harvey's Family Feud, viewership has doubled in syndication. I don't think Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy will double their viewership, but I think the numbers could easily go up a ways.
Even with the programming GSN does have right now, they're still lacking variety in many ways. Take a look at their schedule right now, and you'll see only a few shows worth watching. If GSN doesn't clean themselves up, then I could see the network going the way of Nick GAS in the next few years.
Come on GSN, put some old school Wheel of Fortune on in the mornings.
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Post by jaythebrainmann on Jul 31, 2014 18:31:51 GMT -5
I would like for GSN to air reruns of Wheel as well, but if they do, I'd expect them to start from the late 90's at the earliest. I actually like what GSN has been doing with their classics recently, from airing Sale of the Century to airing episodes of The New Shop Til You Drop that until recently haven't been seen on TV for 14 years. Of course, I do hope they surprise us with more classics...
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Post by Flerbert419 on Jul 31, 2014 21:39:36 GMT -5
GSN is a business, always has been and always will be. Their goal is to make money, not to cater to fans like some may think. No money, no business, no GSN. It is up to them to choose properties that they feel will give them the greatest return on their investments. Right now, they don't feel like that is classic Wheel. Pay whoever has some Woolery episodes for example, put them on the schedule, and watch even more money come in from every direction! Yeah, GSN, you may be in a bit of debt at first, but you'll be out of it before you know it, but if you want to spin up a Bankrupt, you've done an awfully good job of doing it so far. If they thought that would happen, they would have done it. Apparently they don't believe there is as much value there as you do. I could care less about what GSN does nowadays. They've been doing a lot of things over the last 4-5 years that appears as though they only care about themselves. You've got it! I still watch GSN some, but nowhere near as much as I used to. And they've still got you as a viewer without paying a dime for classic Wheel! See how that works?
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Post by WheelFan96 on Aug 5, 2014 10:55:49 GMT -5
I could care less about what GSN does nowadays. They've been doing a lot of things over the last 4-5 years that appears as though they only care about themselves. You've got it! I still watch GSN some, but nowhere near as much as I used to. And they've still got you as a viewer without paying a dime for classic Wheel! See how that works? They've still got me as a viewer now, but I don't think that will last long. The only shows I watch on GSN right now are The American Bible Challenge, The Chase, and the shows that come on in the morning. GSN is slowly trying to produce reality shows, even going as far as referring game shows as "shiny floor shows." I don't know about you, but "shiny floor shows" is one of the dumbest names I've ever heard in my life. If GSN keeps this up, my viewership will be gone in a heartbeat.
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Post by pannoni1 on Aug 6, 2014 11:36:45 GMT -5
Nick GAS was rather doomed since there wasn't as large of a library to choose from, and although it lasted enough years to get a good run at reliving my childhood, Nick themselves owned their own shows; it simply died due to a lack of new game shows to supplant it. There were maybe 1500 episodes of different Nick shows that they could have ran.
What GSN can run is tens of thousands of episodes, and that's only counting Wheel, J!, all Family Feud versions, Pyramid, Hollywood Squares, and Match Game. Wheel was for over two decades the number-one rated show in syndication, and pairing it with classic Jeopardy! will surely work like it did during the network's golden years. Unfortunately, they aren't very open toward the audience and simply decide what works best for them and not us. Its a shame since it takes enough work just to remove episodes from Youtube; if there is no outlet toward making money off of classic episodes via advertisers (which sadly is unfavorable for classic game shows just like what doomed most classic oldies radio stations), then it wouldn't be viable toward airing some episodes. While Crackle is one such service that aired select classic Jeopardy! episodes, why not it or another streamer like Netflix or Hulu (its not like they are small startups anymore) provide a special channel for preserving such content, and Sony/GSN could make their ends meet? Since Game Shows aren't known for DVD releases (and a slowly dying medium), forget those. Another factor is as long as Pat/Vanna are the host, they (much the reason why GSN took off Price in 2000) probably don't want classic content competing with current shows, a strategy I feel worked out with TPIR. But its 2014 now and video streaming is a given online along with more TVs that can hook up and stream. My dream plan would be for Wheel to air a Daytime episode during the actual daytime, and a primetime (preferably the seasons the network hasn't ran up through around season 20 since the late '90s/early '00s have some nostalgia value nowadays) episode around 8PM, after the first-run episodes have aired. That said, until it happens, I'll keep checking old tapes to find more than just a few promos. I'd be willing to pay $10 a month just to watch a season's worth of material in if such a service was provided; 100,000 views would mean a Million Dollar Wedge there.
That said, I only watch GSN when it happens to be airing either a new segment of a lease that either hasn't been aired in at least a decade (I'm ready for spring 1984 PYL even though I have lots of them on some VHS tapes) or if its a new show that's good like The Chase or American Bible Challenge. It still bothers me that GSN hasn't aired any 1983-85 $25,000 Pyramid or the 1991 John Davidson episodes which is a lot of gold they've been missing out on. I'm still fortunate to have the memories of watching Seasons 2, 6, part of 7, 11, 13, and most of 14 on the network, and while all except two were revisiting my childhood, it was still nice to get the then-old school look. Heck, I'd be happy to get anything that predates the Prize Puzzle era.
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Post by mechamind on Aug 6, 2014 15:56:44 GMT -5
I don't think Season 11 ever aired. Seasons 10 and 12 did.
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Post by WarioSajak on Aug 6, 2014 23:22:50 GMT -5
GSN has never aired anything of Season 11, no. Same goes for 3-4, 8-9, and nearly everything post-14 (barring some special occasions).
By all indication, they also haven't aired most of 5.
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