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Post by WooWho on Nov 23, 2015 0:32:13 GMT -5
One of the oldest available episodes, I'd wager.
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Post by MarioGS on Nov 23, 2015 0:56:42 GMT -5
Sounds a lot different from most of the other 70s and 80s episodes without all that extra hollering and whistling that they usually add in. But you got to love how even without the canned sounds, the audience still sounds more engaged in the game than today's audiences do.  Watch the video be blocked by tomorrow afternoon... |
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Post by woffan4ever on Nov 23, 2015 9:22:56 GMT -5
Just curious...Chuck said you couldn't solve with less than $200. What would happen if that's all the player could do and they had, say, $150? Would it go to the next player? And what if none of them had at least $200?
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Post by kevin on Nov 23, 2015 9:32:52 GMT -5
^I'm thinking he meant to say, "you have to solve" or "you can't buy a vowel with $200" and it just came out words. That would be a strange rule, indeed.
On a side note, I never watched a Woolery episode. I didn't like commercials in the middle of puzzles (though I guess they did this with Sajak too) and the commentating on how close to every wedge the contestant was. Actually, shopping as whole just seemed terrible. Typically 3 puzzles/show where now we have at least 7 (not counting BR's, not sure when they started, I'm a noob w/ "Wheel" history). Not to mention (I assume) you had to pay taxes on all the prizes won, ack. Yet it was still a super-popular show - even more so than now! I guess I'm analyzing more as a future contestant and not a viewer. I guess it could be fun to watch people shop?? Idk.
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Post by trisspinner on Nov 23, 2015 10:23:44 GMT -5
Just curious...Chuck said you couldn't solve with less than $200. What would happen if that's all the player could do and they had, say, $150? Would it go to the next player? And what if none of them had at least $200? I just assumed that had meant that the house minimum was $200. You could probably solve with less than $200, but it'd probably get bumped up. |
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Post by wheelgenius on Nov 23, 2015 13:47:20 GMT -5
Isn't this already posted on Chris Bryant's DailyMotion channel?
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Post by eybyon on Nov 23, 2015 15:26:32 GMT -5
Enjoyed Lee's expression of agony when she hit the LAT and Chuck explaining why it would cause such agony.  |
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Post by WarioSajak on Nov 23, 2015 17:47:52 GMT -5
(Sorry in advance for the kinda-long post.  ) I didn't like commercials in the middle of puzzles (though I guess they did this with Sajak too) They did, on both versions, although it went away with the switch to the play-for-cash format (1987 for the nighttime show, 1989 for daytime). and the commentating on how close to every wedge the contestant was. I can definitely see your point, although to be fair to Chuck he did tone it down a bit as the years went on. That said, a few episodes have only managed to survive in audio form (two from 1975, one from 1980, two from 1981), so I'd say the commentating is a positive in those cases. Actually, shopping as whole just seemed terrible. [...] I guess it could be fun to watch people shop?? Idk. This is something I've seen differing opinions on: some think they're dull or bad (including Pat, who's stated that on multiple occasions), while others don't mind 'em. Personally, I'm in the latter group, although it's not my all-time favorite era of the show (that probably goes to Seasons 7-12, as that seemed to be when Wheel really hit its stride). Typically 3 puzzles/show where now we have at least 7 (not counting BR's, not sure when they started, I'm a noob w/ "Wheel" history). Typically, although four-round games happened somewhat often and they even managed a few rare five-rounders (especially astounding after the Bonus Round was permanently added at the end of 1981). Not to mention (I assume) you had to pay taxes on all the prizes won, ack. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you have to pay taxes on any prizes you forfeit. Yet it was still a super-popular show - even more so than now! I don't think so. I don't remember who used this allegory, but the daytime Wheel was a two-headed monster whereas the nighttime show was a three-headed beast. Nighttime Wheel outpaced daytime in viewership, especially after the latter changed networks in 1989. |
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Post by WooWho on Nov 23, 2015 18:30:59 GMT -5
Not to mention (I assume) you had to pay taxes on all the prizes won, ack. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you have to pay taxes on any prizes you forfeit. That's correct, but that wasn't his point. When you win a boatload of prizes like that and not a penny worth of cash to help pay the taxes on any of it, the tax payments end up coming out of YOUR pocket. |
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Post by mechamind on Nov 23, 2015 18:36:58 GMT -5
I didn't like commercials in the middle of puzzles (though I guess they did this with Sajak too) They did, on both versions, although it went away with the switch to the play-for-cash format (1987 for the nighttime show, 1989 for daytime). Wait. I'm thinking they ditched it on the nighttime show near the end of 1983. Every three-round show I've seen from 1984 to the end of shopping had exactly four breaks with any of the following structures: - 3 rounds (one break each), a Bonus Round followed by a break, and the closing chat followed by credits/fees
- 3 rounds (with a break between Round 3 and its shopping, and maybe a G.C.-only Round 4), but immediate credits/fees just after the Bonus Round
- 4 rounds with immediate credits/fees just after the Bonus Round
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Post by kevin on Nov 24, 2015 23:24:07 GMT -5
I guess I was thinking "Wheel" was more popular "back then" (I know this is not the same era) because of what was said in this report (which is really cool and I'm sure many of you have seen). "43 million viewers a day." I know that's daytime and night time, but even if you split those up, that's 20 million each show? Now they get like 10 million? www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy0omqrsdLA |
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Post by pannoni1 on Dec 3, 2015 9:08:29 GMT -5
Yes, that video was on that Dailymotion channel and is the second oldest episode that currently is posted online that isn't a pilot.
Wheel actually was quite popular in the middle/later years of the pre-syndicated Era, finishing third behind TPIR and Family Feud from 1978 through 1983, beating out the fading Match Game '7X, Card Sharks, Blockbusters, The $20,000/New $25,000 Pyramid, Password Plus, Jeopardy! '78, the final couple seasons of Hollywood Squares with Peter Marshall, and although syndicated, on par with The Joker's Wild and Tic Tac Dough.
With regards to shopping, the prizes were as much as rewards as they were for advertising and financing the show's budget since outside of trips/cars (with the later rarely won anyways in those pre-BR days). Yes, there was a decent amount of prizes to choose from and there was usually at least one prize that a player would enjoy.
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