December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 21, 2021 18:19:19 GMT -5

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Season 39, Episode #7497

Airdate: December 21, 2021

From the Sony Studios, it's America's Game! Welcome to winter and Happy Holidays from Wheeeeeeeeeel of Fortune!

Toss-Ups are sponsored by T-Mobile.

$1,000 Toss-Up

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Michael solves JACK FROST.

Shelly	Charlene	Michael
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Slip slidin' into the studio:
Michael Wallace: From Sherman Oaks, CA; property manager in the valley; has a girlfriend named Maddie who he's had "nothin' but fun" with, he's moving to Australia where she's from, and he has one child named Ethan who's going on 1 year, and "it's been a year of fun"
Shelly Vasquez: From Long Beach, CA; lab technician, married to her husband of 5 years named Dave, and they have an almost 2-year old named Jasper; she's also a huge Laker fan, and every wedding anniversary is an "away game" for her and her husband
Charlene Rubush: From Las Vegas, NV (moved from Florida); married for 13 years to her husband Danny; she also works at the Raiders Stadium

$2,000 Toss-Up

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Michael solves MONEY IN THE BANK.

Shelly	Charlene	Michael
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Wheel Prize: Trip to New York City with plug for Spider-Man: No Way Home (labeled SPIDER-MAN) worth $7,000.

Gift Tag (Molly B.), Wild Card, and Million Dollar Wedge on Wheel

Top dollar value: $2,500

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		BANKRUPT! ($0)

$900: N (x4) -$250: A (x3) $600: G (x2) -$250: I (x5) BANKRUPT! ($4,300)	$650: D (x2) $500: K (DUD!)	$600: R -$250: U -$250: E (x4) $500: T (x5) $700: W (x2) $650: H -$250: O Solve: Correct!
	$1,300	$4,400

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Michael solves WAITING AND WAITING UNDER THE MISTLETOE.

Shelly	Charlene	Michael
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$10,000 Mystery Round

Top dollar value: $3,500

Round 2 (Crossword)

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SHELLY	Charlene	Michael
("Null" cycle) $900: S -$250: E (x3) $600: R $900: L (x3) -$250: A BANKRUPT/MDW! ($3,700)	(?) $1,000: H (She flips it... ...BANKRUPT! ($0))	$800: F (x2) -$250: U -$250: O $650: N $550: W Solve: Correct!
		$2,300

Not only did Charlene flip over the BANKRUPT, but she accidentally jabbed her chin with one of its corners. Luckily, no paper cut, as Pat worried about.

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Michael solves WONDERFUL, WILD, SHELF, REAL.

Shelly	Charlene	Michael
		$9,700

Express Round (Trip Puzzle!)

Top dollar value: $3,500

Round 3

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Shelly	CHARLENE	Michael
	$900: N (x3) $650: T (DUD!)	$700: G (DUD!)
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$550: M -$250: I $650: S (x4) -$250: A (DUD!)	EXPRESS: H (x2) (She hops on!) +$1,000: L +$1,000: D +$1,000: Y +$1,000: R Only vowels left! Solve: Correct!
$2,650	$8,700

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Charlene solves SUNSHINE ON MY SHOULDERS and wins a trip to St. Lucia and stay at Bay Gardens Beach Resort & Spa worth $7,800.

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Triple Toss-Up!

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Michael solves SOLVING A RIDDLE.

Shelly	Charlene	Michael
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Shelly solves SOLVING A CROSSWORD.

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Shelly solves SOLVING A BRAINTEASER.

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$4,000	$16,500	$11,700

Top dollar value: $5,000

Round 4

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DING DING! DING DING!

One more puzzle to solve, but first, Shelly will give the last spin of the day.

Final Spin: $700

+$1,000 = $1,700

Shelly: R (DUD!)
Charlene: T ($1,700)
Michael: S (x5) ($8,500)

("Null" cycle)

Shelly: L (x3) ($5,100)
Charlene: P ($3,400)
Michael: W ($10,200)
Shelly: C ($6,800)

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Shelly solves SILK SHEETS & PILLOWCASES.

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$10,800	$16,500	$11,700

Before we go to sleep, Charlene will select one of three Bonus Round categories:

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WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

Charlene picks What Are You Doing? to finish off.

$100,000 BONUS ROUND

Bonus Spin: R in AMERICA'S

Bonus Puzzle

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She says CHOOSING THE RIGHT CARD, then says CHOOSING THE RIGHT. She then says WORD, but she doesn't say CHOOSING THE RIGHT WORD all at once...

...allowing the Audi Q3 to escape. Charlene leaves with $16,500 in cash and trip.

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In the final segment, Pat mentions the rule about solving all at once...and we'll leave it at that.

Last Edit: Apr 27, 2023 0:07:19 GMT -5 by mechamind

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 21, 2021 19:38:19 GMT -5 trisspinner, mechamind, and 2 more like this

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Post by woffan9821 on Dec 21, 2021 19:38:19 GMT -5

So, that ruling, yeah.

Talking it over with a couple other people, it seems that recently, Pat's been asking contestants to say the whole puzzle again if the contestant pauses, just in case. I know that the continuation rule has caused post-buzzer solves to be ruled incorrect, and we had something similar happen in the SU this season, but what happened here just was really unfortunate.

It sucks, there's going to be social media outrage over it when it was technically in the rules, just like the adding of AND in a Crossword, but it's technically fine, while three different episodes allowed solves that shouldn't have been.

I want to say the judging has just been sloppy this season? I don't know if anyone's to blame there, or if the contestants are just pressing their luck more times than normal, but there've been so many rough calls in the past three months that shouldn't have happened.

I'd be fine if we amended the continuation rule to allow long pauses if the words are said in full before time runs out, but this is such a weird fringe case, that I don't know if we're practically going to see it again.

Last Edit: Dec 21, 2021 19:40:23 GMT -5 by woffan9821

Feb 29, 2020 7:53:35 GMT -5 kev347 said:

....Stop reading my mind.

Nov 9, 2022 15:16:00 GMT -5 wheellover65 said:

jfc i just won tickets to see wheel of fortune live

include the part that involves flying 3000 miles to see the price is right and getting turned away at the gate of television city

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 21, 2021 21:40:42 GMT -5

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Post by jjc927 on Dec 21, 2021 21:40:42 GMT -5

I thought TU1 was JOCK Frost after last night's bonus puzzle

Was it really necessary to add the extra WAITING to the puzzle in round 1?

An unfortunate ruling in the bonus round for sure, but I do think it was the right call. She never put the whole puzzle together.

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 21, 2021 22:30:59 GMT -5

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Recap posted. I think I'm in for a crazy rest of the week (and the following week) after this...at least outside of the show.

I had everything but the first word of the bonus puzzle before her picks were revealed. My brother called the bonus puzzle ironic, and I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Last Edit: Dec 21, 2021 22:31:13 GMT -5 by mechamind

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 22, 2021 0:18:27 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by jakemathis4520 on Dec 22, 2021 0:18:27 GMT -5

Charlene works at Allegiant Stadium. That's so cool. I'm a Raiders fan btw.

I spy a null cycle on Shelly's first spin of Round 2 because it was approaching the Million Dollar Wedge then when the overhead shot came on it was approaching one of the bankrupts.

I'm so sick of these mystery wedge flips being bankrupts. It feels like so many of them have been bankrupts lately. Maybe they have been.

Ooh boy that is one strict and painful ruling in the bonus round. I do agree with the call but that absolutely hurts still.

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 22, 2021 0:42:41 GMT -5

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Dec 22, 2021 0:18:27 GMT -5 jakemathis4520 said:

I spy a null cycle on Shelly's first spin of Round 1 because it was approaching the Million Dollar Wedge then when the overhead shot came on it was approaching one of the bankrupts.

I can't really see it in the spin pattern. It's also a What Are You Doing? which begs for N, G, and I to be called first (plus there's an AND in the puzzle).

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jakemathis4520 Posts: 898	December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 22, 2021 0:46:40 GMT -5 via mobile mechamind likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jakemathis4520 on Dec 22, 2021 0:46:40 GMT -5 ^ It was in Round 2 actually, I mistakenly put Round 1

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 22, 2021 3:09:07 GMT -5

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Post by logicman27 on Dec 22, 2021 3:09:07 GMT -5

First off, can I just say that the new Spider-Man movie is an absolute masterpiece? I won’t spoil it for you, but it brings out the two previous Spider-Man incarnations.

That being said, if I was in Pat’s position in the Bonus Round (which I had off RSTLNE), I would’ve had her say the answer again just to show that she really got it.

Then again, everyone did okay tonight so that counts.

Last Edit: Dec 25, 2021 1:56:59 GMT -5 by logicman27

Jan 18, 2019 16:31:06 GMT -5 wheelinganddealing said:

This is why we watch. Not only for the gut punch, but the random acts of insanity that make you cheer for total strangers, the brothers doing "YMCA," or the wife jumping into her husbands arms which led to the greatest ad lib between Pat & Vanna, etc, etc, etc).

There's a reason this show has been on so long.

I'll never quit watching. Hopefully, you won't either.

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 22, 2021 3:37:05 GMT -5

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Post by vowela on Dec 22, 2021 3:37:05 GMT -5

So what is the rule, exactly? Unlike the AND rule, which everyone knows about whether they agree with it or not, this one's far less known to average watchers, and even regular watchers like me. How long of a pause is acceptable? What is the limit?

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 22, 2021 8:56:15 GMT -5

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Post by pannoni1 on Dec 22, 2021 8:56:15 GMT -5

It's 30 seconds on Jeopardy!, you just need to write it all down.

It's whatever the time limit is during the audition, just finish it before "pencil's down", although Charlene's first guess was valid and would have been marked wrong.

Five-figure performances by 2nd and 3rd is what saved this show overall.

The other show that probably has the most strict rule was probably Sale of the Century with Jim Perry, although this applied mostly to the Winner's Big Money Game round where a full answer is deemed immediately, and to a slightly lesser degree, the Speed-Up round. But remembering the "as long as you start before the buzzer" rule, just don't be afraid to go back and start over, and this is what cost her.

I'll bet the producers will have a special meeting involving this special pause rule, since there really needs to be a definitive point since there are differing opinions regarding what constitutes a pause, since if Charlene said "Choosing the righttttttt", by at least holding out the "t" sound before she immediately said "word", I'd feel that there was no pause and that would be acceptable. It's like holding that one note in a musical instrument as long as you could before moving on to the next one, and a "whole rest" is just too long according to the EP.

"That other show" on the first line...I didn't think it was humanly possible to narrow it down like this.

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 22, 2021 11:49:42 GMT -5

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Post by MarioGS on Dec 22, 2021 11:49:42 GMT -5

Dec 22, 2021 3:37:05 GMT -5 vowela said:

So what is the rule, exactly? Unlike the AND rule, which everyone knows about whether they agree with it or not, this one's far less known to average watchers, and even regular watchers like me. How long of a pause is acceptable? What is the limit?

In the video compilation I posted above, most pauses under 3 seconds are accepted. This one was about 5 seconds.

That being said, the first known time this rule came up back in Season 31, the pause was only about 0.7 seconds and was not accepted, not helped by the fact that she said the last word after the buzzer.

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 22, 2021 15:52:55 GMT -5 logicman27 and andersonloveswheel32 like this

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Post by mechamind on Dec 22, 2021 15:52:55 GMT -5

Since you requested they appeal, let me bring up a previous post of mine (except replace $39,000 with Audi):

Nov 12, 2021 10:40:20 GMT -5 mechamind said:

In the event of a successful Bonus Round appeal, the appropriate action is not to bring the contestant back, but instead to award the $39,000 immediately. Bringing back a contestant only makes sense if it's because of a main-game mistake.

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 22, 2021 16:44:49 GMT -5 Prizes, MarioGS, and 3 more like this

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Post by vowela on Dec 22, 2021 16:44:49 GMT -5

I actually agree about awarding her the win. This isn't like the AND rule in crossword puzzles. That is a clear and concise rule, don't add any words, including AND, when solving the puzzle. Regardless of people who don't like the rule, that rule is at least crystal clear.

This rule seems incredibly murky. Not even here, on this site with super fans, does anyone seem to clearly know exactly what the rule is. It certainly seemed like a long pause, I won't argue, but there doesn't seem to be any objective measure used on what constitutes a long pause, which kind of bothers me.

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 22, 2021 23:04:22 GMT -5

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Post by jjc927 on Dec 22, 2021 23:04:22 GMT -5

Well, I guess it's a good thing Wheel is getting so much publicity even if it's not necessarily good, especially with Amy Schneider back on...

"The other show's popular contestant"? Don't forget they have a host who, while former, can still be acknowledged as a contestant.

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 23, 2021 0:41:37 GMT -5

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Post by williamporygon on Dec 23, 2021 0:41:37 GMT -5

Just caught up on this episode and... yeah. If that's their rule and they "have to go by it" as Pat often says on the Celebrity episodes, then so be it — but it's a terrible rule and needs to be rewritten or eliminated.

IMO — and I suspect this is how the average viewer would feel about this — if the contestant says all the correct words, in the correct order, with nothing extra added between, it should be a win. I understand you can't have contestants pausing after the buzzer, but if there's a pause, as long as they resume their answer before the buzzer — which Charlene clearly did — that should be fine. It shouldn't matter if the pause was half a second, 5 seconds or 9 seconds. The bonus round (and speed-up round) aren't like the toss-ups where you can't pause because the expectation is you're supposed to know the answer and be ready to give the whole thing the moment you hit the button.

I really don't want to see this happen again, because it's equivalent to the constant overly picky rulings about pronunciations and spellings on Jeopardy! that turned me off to that show to the point that I seldom watch it anymore.

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December 21, 2021 (Winter Solstice) recap Dec 23, 2021 15:38:17 GMT -5

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Post by atrocalypse on Dec 23, 2021 15:38:17 GMT -5

This has been declared a technical win over a technicality. www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi9isWW4_r0AhUinWoFHYGJDZkQvOMEKAB6BAgREAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2021%2F12%2F23%2Fentertainment%2Fwheel-of-fortune-car-cec%2Findex.html&usg=AOvVaw3K3KZ9iwtC8gNzxykCimYn

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