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Post by StrangerCoug on Sept 1, 2014 19:30:24 GMT -5
They've been changing the title card every season for a number of years now. I don't understand the surprise.
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Post by MarioGS on Sept 1, 2014 19:34:20 GMT -5
Yes, that's the official title card for the new season. Hopefully we'll get a clearer version soon. I don't get it? If this is the official title card for Season 32, then why were the producers fooling us with that picture of the production slates that showed the Season 31 motif? I thought the title card was going to be 100% unchanged from Season 31. Because that one picture was taken during the "pre-season" tapings. They probably didn't finish the new title card yet and will probably replace the "old" one with the new one in post-production. |
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Post by thiswheel13 on Sept 1, 2014 20:34:49 GMT -5
What's the point in changing them anyway. You seem the toss-up wheel for what... 6 seconds out of the entire show so wouldn't consider it a priority.
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Post by woffan4ever on Sept 2, 2014 13:08:16 GMT -5
Haven't posted in quite some time. Thought I'd weigh in with my thoughts. $32k has just sounded totally odd to me since I've seen it, especially if they do it for just this season. Appears I concur with most everyone else. THANK YOU!!! That's what I say about the $300 wedges saying goodbye. I've been asking for that for years. With that being said, they could have made the layout a bit more widespread. Not so many $500s! How about a $1000 or at least some more $-50 wedges. I really like the SL bonus...unless...it's in R3. Heck, just say that you land on Express, call the SL, get the bonus + $1k/letter, then hop on, fill in the puzzle and get the trip, you've all but guaranteed your spot in the BR. It's just a bit unfair in my opinion. A freshening up of the category strips, TU chips, etc. would be nice, but it's no biggee. All I can say is I hope that this season is better than last season. Won't take much to top it, that's for sure. I'm ready for the 15th. Hurry up and get here; I'm having withdrawals!  |
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Post by emilburp on Sept 2, 2014 15:37:59 GMT -5
Season 32 --> :hammer:<-- Season 31
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Post by greenday61892 on Sept 2, 2014 15:52:08 GMT -5
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Post by dantastic312 on Sept 2, 2014 16:18:05 GMT -5
Season 31 netted the 5 of us over $300,000 in cash and prizes... soooooo yeah.
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Post by genius2751 on Sept 2, 2014 18:17:46 GMT -5
You five and others were the ONLY reason I enjoyed this past season. Seriously!  |
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Post by jmo on Sept 2, 2014 22:53:43 GMT -5
Some better things I would have thought of for Season 32.
1. Express Wedge face value becomes $1,500
2. Mystery Wedge face value becomes $2,000
3. Free Play is retired and Free Spin returns. (Free Play has an unfair advantage that is very similar to the old Free Spin wedge. When a contestant hits Free Play, they are automatically safe each time, so if they repeatedly hit the wedge and screw up, this means that others are getting less of a chance to play in the round. This is very similar to the old Free Spin wedge from 1974-1989, because every time a contestant hit the wedge, they got a token, so the more tokens they had, the more times they could bail out and this also was an unfair advantage, as it also lessened other contestants' chances of playing in a round. With Free Spin as a single token concealing a dollar amount, a contestant could only bail out once per game, then the rest of the show, play passes to the next player. I still cannot believe to this very day, 5 years later, that anyone on Wheel of Fortune could even THINK to retire the show's longest lasting element of all.)
4. Surprise Wedge returns. It's my favorite element, because you had to win it to find out what it was. The show just doesn't feel the same without it.
5. Move the MDW to the Bankrupt next to the top dollar value. (The wedge doesn't award money per letter, so it might as well not be over a dollar amount. The preceding $10,000 Oreo wedge was initially placed over a Bankrupt until the single Wheel template debuted, so there should be no surprise here.)
I just think, basically, that many changes I'm seeing this decade, tell me that the producers are ruining Wheel of Fortune. An example, going to the start of Season 31, Wheel should have just introduced the Express wedge if they needed to make the game fresh and exciting, but not retire anything they had in Season 30, not even Jackpot. Jackpot was on the red $700 in Round 1, Express is there in R3, so these wedges wouldn't have gotten in the way of each other to BOTH be present. If I was a producer for Wheel of Fortune, I'd think more of fans and what they want.
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Post by thiswheel13 on Sept 3, 2014 1:14:14 GMT -5
The express could be bumped to $1,500 considering the minimum on the wheel now. Just as long as it isn't attached to the Prize Puzzle round.
Bumping that MW to $2,000 is a bit much. If you're leaving the $10K as is then the $2,000 face value pretty much makes an automatic decision. Bumping the $10K to $20K would pretty much lock in a runaway game in most situations so I would say no to that.
Yes, we all know the history behind the Free Spin, doesn't mean it needs to come back or other elements for that matter. If you're still hanging on to the surprise wedge being retired nearly 20 YEARS AGO. I have one word... priorities. Yes it's a piece of wheel history but so are a lot of other things. If the show kept half of the stuff that people still want to see we'd have to retitle the show "Wheel of Cardboard" Hell, it practically is that already.
If they were to place the MDW on top of a bankrupt they should do so over the bankrupt sandwiched between $900 and $650. There needs to be some sort of balance with glitter and not have it all in one spot.
Lastly, just because they keep introducing new elements doesn't mean they're ruining the show. The newer elements are just a way of tweaking the game without making the game unrecognizable. Strip down everything and you still have Wheel of Fortune. Unless they somehow drastically change the format there's no need for people to misguidedly predict the show's demise.
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Post by zjwheeler on Sept 3, 2014 10:27:19 GMT -5
If a player uses the Wild Card and calls a wrong letter, they lose their turn and the card is gone for the rest of the show. What I was mainly saying is that many contestants don't even know you CAN use it in the main game, which is why Pat always has to (but sometimes doesn't) tell them about it. While they're at it, they should also increase the awareness of having one. A little WC icon next to the score can't hurt. The only way you can tell someone has one is if you see a ridge on the railing and it's purplish enough to not be a Gift Tag or 1/2 Car tag. Really? I thought at first the Wild Card was promoted to be used at the main game, rather the bonus game with the latter power as its secondary power? I felt during the first seasons with it they suggested the bonus game power to help them. I guess as the years go by the importance of another letter at the Bonus Round probably diminished the popularity of its primary use (even though I really haven't seen a big impact on the Wild Card at the Bonus Round, as the Wild Card letter is the 4th most important consonant the player thinks, which might be rare on itself -- that said, maybe that could be help enough against tricky puzzles). |
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Post by jmo on Sept 3, 2014 10:57:02 GMT -5
The express could be bumped to $1,500 considering the minimum on the wheel now. Just as long as it isn't attached to the Prize Puzzle round. Bumping that MW to $2,000 is a bit much. If you're leaving the $10K as is then the $2,000 face value pretty much makes an automatic decision. Bumping the $10K to $20K would pretty much lock in a runaway game in most situations so I would say no to that. Yes, we all know the history behind the Free Spin, doesn't mean it needs to come back or other elements for that matter. If you're still hanging on to the surprise wedge being retired nearly 20 YEARS AGO. I have one word... priorities. Yes it's a piece of wheel history but so are a lot of other things. If the show kept half of the stuff that people still want to see we'd have to retitle the show "Wheel of Cardboard" Hell, it practically is that already. If they were to place the MDW on top of a bankrupt they should do so over the bankrupt sandwiched between $900 and $650. There needs to be some sort of balance with glitter and not have it all in one spot. Lastly, just because they keep introducing new elements doesn't mean they're ruining the show. The newer elements are just a way of tweaking the game without making the game unrecognizable. Strip down everything and you still have Wheel of Fortune. Unless they somehow drastically change the format there's no need for people to misguidedly predict the show's demise. I'm talking about retiring elements that don't need to be retired like Surprise, Jackpot, etc. The retirement of these great elements are what lead me to think Wheel of Fortune is ruining the show. Anyways, if it were up to me, I'd just keep Jackpot AND introduce Express. The Wheel already has so much on it now compared to a decade ago. You might as well have cardboard covering every space on there. I can still remember when the MDW replaced the Oreo $10,000 wedge. I expected to see BOTH of these on the Wheel when Season 26 premiered. Only elements that don't do well should be retired, and Jackpot, Surprise, etc. being won so many times, are definitely not on the list. |
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Post by greenday61892 on Sept 3, 2014 11:03:52 GMT -5
What do you mean by didn't NEED to be retired? Because you say so? It's called keeping the show fresh, changing things up so each season has something that differentiates it from others.
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Post by jmo on Sept 3, 2014 12:35:29 GMT -5
According to Wheel of Fortune wiki as seen in this link: wheeloffortunehistory.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ, the Jackpot was won at least 114 times over the course of the 17 years that it was on the air. With Jackpot being won that many times, to me, this doesn't sound like the right kind of element to be retired. Something like the MDW is what should be retired because there have only been TWO million dollar wins in the course of the six seasons since the wedge debuted. It's time that the MDW was retired and that Harry Friedman found other ways to offer even more money. One thing I thought of was $250,000 and $500,000 cash bonuses in the Bonus Round, in addition to the $100,000. These two, $250,000 and $500,000 wouldn't require a special wedge to be brought with. Again, going back to the Jackpot, it being won at least 114 times left me dumbfounded that an element that would so well would be retired. You are right, this isn't about whether I say it needs to be retired or not, but it doesn't sound like an element that is won so many times SHOULD be retired. |
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Post by jmo on Sept 3, 2014 12:36:52 GMT -5
I apologize for the repeat amount of times that previous message has appeared. I had a little trouble posting the above message. I tried to delete the repeats, but I can't figure out how.
I've taken care of the duplicate posts. Only mods can delete posts. |
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Post by greenday61892 on Sept 3, 2014 12:41:13 GMT -5
........first of all the quintuple post was far from necessary. (ETA: no there's no way for them to be deleted except by the mods who will) Second, just because the MDW has only been won twice doesn't mean it should automatically be retired and in fact, it only being won twice means it's being done RIGHT. It's SUPPOSED to be that difficult to pull off, and both Michelle's and Autumn's victories were definitely something special.
Also as if they would DECREASE the top prize. No game show should EVER do that.
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Post by thiswheel13 on Sept 3, 2014 13:14:49 GMT -5
The Express wedge was the perfect replacement for the Jackpot wedge. As stated many times before by various people it's a way of keeping the show fresh without overbearing the show with new features. I was upset when the Jackpot wedge was retired but the Express wedge is like it's cousin. It's only there for one round and is a quick way for contestants to earn a few extra grand with one spin of the wheel.
Were you expecting the million to be won very frequently? Hell, $100K only showed up twice last season. Should the retire the bonus wheel then since it had a relatively unsuccessful season? The million isn't designed to be so easily won. It was definitely earned by the two ladies who have won it. Even if it's not won in a particular season I would consider it successful if the MDW makes a handful of appearances in the BR.
The show will never have all three of the amounts you listed on the bonus wheel at once. For one, it's completely unrealistic. Big values would show up pretty often and would lose their significance. This isn't DonD where they need to rely on gimmicks for people to win big money nor do they need to. They have their one thing to allow for some big wins under the right circumstances. Did I include $250K on my bonus wheel? Yes. Do I expect the show to do so anytime soon? No.
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Post by MarioGS on Sept 3, 2014 14:16:39 GMT -5
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Post by MarioGS on Sept 3, 2014 15:24:35 GMT -5
Another KDVR news report shows a glimpse of the Bankrupt Mystery Wedge. (The video automatically adjusts quality based on your current connection and memory and isn't downloadable. If anyone can get the video to play in an HD-looking quality, that'd be great.) 
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