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Post by ryanquek95 on Sept 14, 2011 10:18:57 GMT -5
At the start of 2010, I had asked Pat (through his then still working website), about any bonus wheel configuration. His reply was that all amounts were randomly loaded. For those at tapings, who actually loads the wheel? Can you see it, or is it loaded somewhere else and then brought onto stage? And from the audience stands, can you see where the wheel is set to? I was just wondering about the possibility of artificially increasing $100K bonus round landings. Call it conspiracy theory, but then, during the bonus wheel spin practices, there will be a noticeable spin pattern, just like the normal game. Couldn't the wheel be set to perhaps increase the chances of hitting $100K? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that there were 15 big money hits in S26, 14 in S28, but then just a paltry 3 in S27. Can't be that much of a coincidence, I guess.
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Post by MarioGS on Sept 14, 2011 10:39:36 GMT -5
The Bonus Wheel is loaded backstage.
I don't know exactly where it is set to, or if it even is at all. I think contestants get to do a "practice spin" on it before the camera starts rolling, so that aspect really wouldn't matter. Plus, it has to go all the way around, and if it doesn't they spin again and the first spin is thrown out.
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Post by MainAdmin on Sept 14, 2011 11:25:36 GMT -5
Exactly why is it that the regular wheel in the front game doesn't have to go all the way around for the spin to count, but the bonus round wheel does?
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Post by woffan4ever on Sept 14, 2011 11:28:54 GMT -5
I am not sure why, but I would assume it is because the regular wheel is MUCH harder to spin around than the bonus wheel. That's just a speculation, though....
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Post by WayoshiM on Sept 14, 2011 12:46:58 GMT -5
Because the bonus spinning cue (leading to the BR cue) needs adequate time to play out correctly.
Even the weakest players shouldn't have trouble with a full rotation, this isn't Price's Big Wheel.
Also, for S&P, I believe every loading session of the BR wheel is videotaped, showing exactly where is what, and production has such charts for every episode.
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Post by ryanquek95 on Sept 14, 2011 21:32:12 GMT -5
The Bonus round wheel seems insanely light anyway, the wheel probably goes two rotations at least, which may be why pat says "round and round we go"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2011 21:47:09 GMT -5
Although it seems everybody gives it a full strength spin, as it seems they aren't aiming for anything... that might just be me though. I would finesse the wheel to go for a certain wedge. Not telling which one.
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Post by whammy007 on Sept 14, 2011 22:07:19 GMT -5
I would guess that the bonus round wheel has to make one full revolution as some type of stipulation on insurance. For example, Price had insurance on their million dollar spins and the policy stipulated that the wheel had to travel at least 21 spaces to award the million (Source: golden-road.net). It's likely that Wheel has some form of insurance as well, at least for the million dollar bonus rounds, if not all of them.
Wayoshi's cue reason may also be a factor, but I'd bet on it being an S&P/insurance angle.
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Post by woffan4ever on Oct 1, 2011 10:18:04 GMT -5
Okay. This is something that I have pondered for awhile now; just curious about others' input. Wheel's Season 12 (the last at CBS TV City) saw a lot of changes. Notably the puzzle board border and music. There was also the $10k wedge (one of their smartest ideas ever!) and that damned Megaword....I have always wondered....Why did they change the puzzle board like they did knowing they would be moving the following season to Sony? (And for that fact, why did they change the puzzle border twice more when they got there when they were going to get a new board in 1997?! A waste of money if you ask me...) And, even though they kept it until 1997, why did they change the music? I guess they wanted to leave CBS with bang...What are your all's thoughts/speculations on this.
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Post by woffan4ever on Oct 4, 2011 23:58:16 GMT -5
I was thinking about this just today, for some reason. I remember that several years ago, if a person won the bonus round, they would show a slow instant replay of Pat revealing what they won during the credits. When did that begin and end? I thought it was very neat, actually.
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Post by tenpoundhammer on Oct 5, 2011 19:33:10 GMT -5
I think it started in the 1997-98 season.
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Post by gameshowguy2000 on Oct 5, 2011 20:29:02 GMT -5
I'll take a guess and say 1996-97. I saw a few clips on YouTube of this occurring. I could be wrong, though.
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Post by woffan4ever on Oct 5, 2011 21:15:58 GMT -5
I was thinking it was around '96 or '97. When did the end? I was thinking it was sometime around the mid 2000s.
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Post by tenpoundhammer on Oct 5, 2011 21:31:54 GMT -5
I don't recall ever seeing it on an episode with the mechanical board, so I would say 1997-98 sounds right.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 16:50:55 GMT -5
Was the old trilon puzzleboard used on road shows (with its spiky border) a separate puzzleboard than the one used at the show's home studios (NBC Studios, Television City, Sony Pictures Studios)?
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Post by MarioGS on Oct 27, 2011 17:17:52 GMT -5
Yes. The traveling board didn't have the never-used trilons in the corners, plus during a behind-the-scenes report in 1988, they showed the diamond backdrops in progress for the New York trip, plus blueprints of the traveling board and wheel (which was notceably MUCH looser than the normal one).
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Post by bobby1988 on Nov 2, 2011 14:25:18 GMT -5
I have a few questions about the final weeks of of the 13th syndicated season. On Friday, 5/24/96, contestant Kari became the new champ with $19,350. According to the Wheel History Wiki, the week of 5/27-5/31/96 used a Friday Finals format. So was Kari brought back for her second appearance the week after the Friday Finals (6/3/96-6/7/96, which was also the unofficial season finale week)?
It seemed pretty random to simply do a Friday Finals week for no apparent reason only to revert one last time to the 3-day format the following week.
Also, did a 3-day champ retire at the end of season 13? I would imagine so, since I can't picture the show simply saying to a 1 or 2-day champ "We're doing a new format next season and we're not allowing you to attempt to complete your run as returning champion."
I've always wondered about this for years.
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Post by WarioSajak on Nov 2, 2011 14:57:51 GMT -5
The week of May 27 may have been taped before that of June 3. Also, did a 3-day champ retire at the end of season 13? I would imagine so, since I can't picture the show simply saying to a 1 or 2-day champ "We're doing a new format next season and we're not allowing you to attempt to complete your run as returning champion." Even if that were the case, it's nowhere near as bad as telling Benirschke's last champion the same thing...or telling any four-digit "big winner" since September 2001 (or September '05) that "We're cheap morons who love to recklessly tape shows out of order, so you're not coming back. Take your $6,550 and get out!"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2011 23:56:55 GMT -5
The show has inserted Friday Finals weeks at random points in the middle of seasons well before Season 13 (this practice probably dates back to the 1980s on the daytime show!)
The only reasons I could think of for not bringing back Benierschke's last champ on Goen's first episode was because of the time between the final episode of the original NBC run and the first CBS episode, as well as the change in format from shopping to playing for cash.
;D EPIC 'explanation'! The show has been taping episodes/weeks out of order for many, many years, and it got worse after returning champions was retired. I just 'love' how they tried to cover their taping practices by dubbing over Charlie O'Donnell after his death, only for the show itself to expose its own taping practices on its Facebook page this past summer when the first tapings for this season were announced! (The official "explanation" is complete nonsense and is just a PR stunt, IMO. His remaining eight weeks that were dubbed over were probably all taped before the week of October 25, 2010 was. BTW, we're still waiting for an official explanation for dubbing Jim over the other guest announcers for the Summer 2011 reruns!)
Now that I think about it, the 1997 Raymond Taylor ban court order doesn't seem that logical a reason for eliminating returning champions and Friday Finals-Taylor also trespassed the Jeopardy! studio, yet that show continues returning champions to this day (even eliminating the original 5-day limit!)
Speaking of cheap-better hope we don't see $50-diamond and $75-diamond on the Wheel again anytime soon!
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Post by WayoshiM on Nov 3, 2011 0:12:56 GMT -5
The official explanation is that they announced Jim as the new announcer early in the summer and wanted to establish him.
This is just good business, guys... it's the same reason Price had exclusively non-guest-announcer George Gray reruns this summer and when had to do a make-good on a Steve White show, had one week of all Steve White to make it seem like a guest announcer week.
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