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Post by whammy007 on Jun 20, 2014 14:18:13 GMT -5
Sigh... so much for $750, or anything four-digit. Still, could they not do something about that 500-550-600 triad? If it were me, I'd say make the blue $550 up to $750 and knock the blue $600 down to $550. That would also help to spread out the x50 wedges, having four out there instead of three which are all on one side of the wheel. I would suggest doing something about the half-dozen $500 spaces that are still there... but nothing's gonna happen to those, because all of them get covered by cardboard at one point or another.  In my opinion, this wheel may be a slight step up in cash offered ($1,600 total between the five wedges that increased), but it's a BIG step back in terms of diversity of wedge values and overall design balance. I sincerely hope we at least get a vowel price up to at least $500 to go with this, or it's going to be even more of a bad joke than it is now. |
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Post by lousan92 on Jun 20, 2014 14:22:46 GMT -5
The $500-$550-$600 sequence doesn't annoy me. What really annoys me is that there are two sections on the Wheel where there are two $500 spaces separated by only one wedge. I don't understand it... It would be better distributing them in a better way.
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Post by MarioGS on Jun 20, 2014 14:39:39 GMT -5
I would suggest doing something about the half-dozen $500 spaces that are still there... but nothing's gonna happen to those, because all of them get covered by cardboard at one point or another. In my opinion, this wheel may be a slight step up in cash offered ($1,600 total between the five wedges that increased), but it's a BIG step back in terms of diversity of wedge values and overall design balance. I sincerely hope we at least get a vowel price up to at least $500 to go with this, or it's going to be even more of a bad joke than it is now. They could always change the one under the MDW since it doesn't (and never will) award money (why not make THAT a $750, Wheel?), but they won't. In my opinion, the Season 30 layout would be nearly ideal with $500 vowels. It's a shame because had they stuck with that, it could have evolved into a perfect layout over time. At the very least, the only changes it really needed were changing the red $700 to $750 and added at least one extra 4-digit wedge for R4+. The whole thing is butchered now.  I wonder which factor is keeping them more from doing the latter: budget, or effort in printing out new wedges and probably having to make "1" stencils? |
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Post by mechamind on Jun 20, 2014 15:23:47 GMT -5
And to think that on the pilots, the puzzles were short, the Round 1 top value was $350, and vowels still cost $250 back then. Even I have to ask if they're forgetting something.
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Post by master199965 on Jun 20, 2014 15:42:19 GMT -5
The full Wheel has been revealed... *quoted image* $450 is now a $650 and the orange $300 is now $900. The $5000 wedge still being on there heavily implies that there is STILL nothing else above $900 in R4+. -_- Digital version: *quoted image* Could you please post a bare layout without the $5000 wedge? Removed quoted images. Also, no need to type in all caps unless it's absolutely necessary. |
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Post by wheelfan90 on Jun 20, 2014 18:58:44 GMT -5
The whole layout sucks now. The $500-$550-$600 progression isn't the only problem; getting rid of $300 and $400 only limits what numbers they can use even more. As I said, the numbers will be repetitive due to a slim selection.
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Post by germanname1990 on Jun 20, 2014 19:39:30 GMT -5
Well, I mentioned this earlier in this thread, the one with a spoiler, but on my iPod I saw a video over at Instagram of a Detriot promo showing part of the Round 1 layout.
Based on what I saw in the promo, not much has seemed to change for Round 1. $2500 still appears to be top value and the Million Dollar Wedge, Wild Card, and Gift Tag are in the same positions as they were in Season 31. Although I heard going into Season 31 that Mystery Wedges were going to be in Round 1 for the first time in its existence, that does not seem to be the case here. As for the $900, it appears to be valued at that. I know it's a $X00 value, and I cannot see the first digit being anything else than a 9.
Unfortunately, the uploader has privatised her user account, so accessing her via computer is impossible unless you are following her account. Furthermore I'm not mentioning her name here for obvious reasons.
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Post by StrangerCoug on Jun 21, 2014 14:42:55 GMT -5
It's... not making me want to shoot my head, but I am disappointed by the lack of four-digit values besides top dollar.
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Post by germanname1990 on Jun 21, 2014 14:55:35 GMT -5
Well, I'm sure they're still going to have the Express and Mystery Wedges, each valued at $1000, but if you want a four-digit space without any gimmicks, that's understandable. Sure, they could have $1500, $2000, or maybe even bring back Goen's $1250 for the sake of nostalgia. Furthermore, I'm hoping that $4000 will be a value for Round 3. The $2500/$3500/$3500/$5000 structure is a bit weird if they're using only two four-digit values at most on any Wheel layout.
It's kind of funny now that being the guy that grew up without seeing $650, $850, $950, I'm a little worried about a future Wheel elite (probably 2 or 3 years old right now as I got into the show at just 2 years old, just a couple months from turning 3 in fact) asking where $750, $850, and $950 are, even though he/she will have more access to the Net than I did when I was a child.
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Post by StrangerCoug on Jun 21, 2014 17:07:26 GMT -5
There's my offsite $2,500/$3,750/$5,000, but you sure as heck aren't going to talk Sony into putting in a wedge with three significant figures, and $3,750 is the only such value I've been able to bring myself to use in my regular games there. I have only used one other—$175—and that's for special "retro" games where I just use an old layout straight up with only font and minor color changes. (While talking about this reminds me that I haven't done a WoF '93 game here in what seems like ages now, and I'm open to it in the future, doing one now would commit me to modding three Wheel games at once. I worry about burning out if I take on any more, so it'll have to wait a bit.)
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Post by MarioGS on Jun 21, 2014 20:08:08 GMT -5
master199965: Here's a bare layout:  germanname1990: The "Mystery Wedges in R1" thing came from a Vegas taping report on this forum which (unsurprisingly) turned out to be false. The user got the rounds mixed up and apparently thought R2 was R1, R3 was R2, etc.
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Post by StrangerCoug on Jun 22, 2014 12:08:25 GMT -5
There's my offsite $2,500/$3,750/$5,000, but you sure as heck aren't going to talk Sony into putting in a wedge with three significant figures, and $3,750 is the only such value I've been able to bring myself to use in my regular games there. OK, I lied. I forgot I use $1,250. germanname1990: The "Mystery Wedges in R1" thing came from a Vegas taping report on this forum which (unsurprisingly) turned out to be false. The user got the rounds mixed up and apparently thought R2 was R1, R3 was R2, etc. For some reason I'm surprised it's an off-by-one error and not an off-by-two error (thinking TU1 is R1, TU2 is R2, R1 is R3, and so on). |
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Post by Chris2788 on Jun 22, 2014 13:51:10 GMT -5
Hey Mario, would love to see how the other rounds would look like with your graphic expertise. BTW, it's going to be so weird this coming season to see the changes.
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Post by master199965 on Jun 22, 2014 14:47:14 GMT -5
Thank you! Hey Mario, would love to see how the other rounds would look like with your graphic expertise. BTW, it's going to be so weird this coming season to see the changes. I think he would REALLY Agree! Consecutive posts merged. |
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Post by germanname1990 on Jun 22, 2014 16:52:39 GMT -5
I appreciate the info, MarioGS. At the same time, I feel that if the Prize Puzzle is going to be Round 3, they should make the first two rounds be Express/Mystery. I liked what they did in Season 30. Instead of having just a normal round, every round had some sort of gimmick. Furthermore, the Express & Prize Puzzle would usually lead to a runaway total. If they used a Mystery/Express/Prize Puzzle format for the first three rounds, it would help even the stakes a bit.
If some of you disagree with how I feel, that's fine. I just want to state how I feel what's best for the show.
Now for the price of vowels. The Wheel's minimum value of $500 is not the only thing that makes me believe that the price of vowels will be increased. During Wheel 6000, Pat kept stating that the price of vowels was still $250. Since Pat was said "still," that and the Wheel's increased values, are making me put two and two together that the cost of vowels is indeed going to go up. I don't see vowels costing $750, but I my guess is that vowels will be either $500 or $1000, most likely $500. I'd be surprised if the cost of vowels stays the same at this point. |
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Post by StrangerCoug on Jun 22, 2014 19:41:37 GMT -5
I see $500 as more likely than $1,000 despite what I said in the thread I made about the Wheel and inflation earlier today. Having to spin top dollar if you want to buy a vowel after a measly single seems hard on the players.
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Post by StrangerCoug on Jun 27, 2014 17:59:48 GMT -5
Something just hit me—The wheel's becoming more and more like a mix of pre-1996 rounds 3 and 4 instead of pre-1996 round 3 exclusively. If they wanted to bring $1,500 back, the $650 between Free Play and Bankrupt would be the perfect spot for it.
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Post by WheelFan96 on Jul 2, 2014 13:40:14 GMT -5
I like this year's layout better than last year's layout. Though I would've done things a little different.
Here's what I would've done to the layout this year.
Blue $350 becomes $850
Yellow $400 becomes $750
Blue $300 becomes $550
Orange $300 becomes $1500
Pink $450 becomes $950
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 14:32:47 GMT -5
While the new layout isn't as desirable as one would consider, it does more money to the Wheel, and it won't take more than 2 spins for one player to make over the $1,000 minimum (assuming each spin nets a player one letter each). This might entice players to risk a spin as they could get more bang for their buck. I do agree greatly with the notion that the blue $550 should have become a $750 or even $800 or $850.
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Post by wof85 on Jul 15, 2014 18:05:03 GMT -5
I am new to this site but not Wheel of Fortune. I think they should make the $900 by Bankrupt $950 keep the $650 on the other side of Bankrupt and change the $700 next to lose a turn to $750. Change the $800 next to lose a turn to $850. Adding values like this to the wheel would stop the overuse of the same amount such as the one we are seeing now with the $500.It would go Bankrupt $950, $500, $750, $600, $500, $700, $550, $800, $600, $750, $900, $500, $5,000, Bankrupt, $600, $700, $500, $650, $850, Lose A Turn, $750, Free Play. Maybe it's time for a whole new wheel layout anyway. This is the old Round 3 one from the late 80's that was redone win 1996. I miss the the days when they would change the layout 3 times a show. I just saw the second part of the wheel. I do like having three $900 wedges especially if I was playing. What bothers me is the overuse of $500 there are now six of them and I don't like the $500, $550, $600 being in a row. I still can't understand why they will not use $70, $850, $950 on the wheel. I still love the show and plan on watching every night it's on. Dude. Grammar. It's your friend. The spacebar. After punctuation. Use it please. Makes your sentences that much easier to read.  |
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I wonder which factor is keeping them more from doing the latter: budget, or effort in printing out new wedges and probably having to make "1" stencils?
